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I like both AND football.
that allows you to just enjoy riding and not having think about the navigation etc.
hmmm I rarely give navigation any thought and have frequently gotten lost in trail centres so your argument doesn't hold water for me 🙂
Our local trails have every appearance of being very, very natural (e.g. this one: [url=
Thin Red Line[/url]).
If you ever stop to have a look over the side of the trail, you find that the sweet, flowing, natural contour singletrack you're riding is acutally held on to the side of the mountain by substantial dry-stone walls in many places. They're actually old trans-humance trails, hand-built and used for moving people & cattle up and down the mountains for centuries. Not only does this mean they have a great, flowy gradient, they also drain fantastically well and never get muddy.
Natural vs man-made is a matter of degrees, it's not black and white.
I'd much rather ride twisty trails at Glentress, Kirroughtree, Laggan or Golspie than a lot of the straight-line, dull, dull, dull boulder fields that comprise many Lakes and Peak bridleways (not all, I know).
than a lot of the straight-line, dull, dull, dull boulder fields that comprise many Lakes and Peak bridleways (not all, I know).
examples ?? And how in hell can a boulder field be dull ? Scary perhaps...
dull:
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examples ??
That boulder-filled ditch that runs along the ridge from the road-pass near the top of Mam Tor. Can't remember what you call it. Supposedly a classic of Peak district riding. Half a mile of baby-head rocks to rumble over. 😉
Anyway, you call that a boulder field?
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dull:
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That boulder-filled ditch that runs along the ridge from the road-pass near the top of Mam Tor
say [b]WHAT??[/b]
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fantastic fun 🙂
But you've made your point - if you don't like that kind of thing then trail centres are probably best for you 🙂
Half a mile of baby-head rocks to rumble over
Like a lot of Highland riding as well then.
fantastic fun
Meh. Straight-line, turn-off brain, no line-choice required dullness. 😉
Have I put enough of these in yet? 😉 😉 😉
Have I put enough of these in yet?
OK, ya got me 🙂
BTW, sometimes I find the ubiquitous wiggliness of trail centres rather contrived...
BTW, sometimes I find the ubiquitous wiggliness of trail centres rather contrived...
Agreed actually, there's nothing worse than a man-made corner which doesn't quite flow properly! Fine if it's natural, you gotta ride it as you find it, but when it's SUPPOSED to flow... Grrr!
Lenny - MemberRide what you want, where you want, and enjoy it!
Took the words right out of my mouth.
Last Sun I got the map out.
Today(and last night)I am just setting off, biking to & back, to my nearest trail centre because I am short of time today, have to go to work @ 6pm.
>Natural vs man-made is a matter of degrees, it's not black and white. <
Agreed - I see the distinction more one of man made versus purpose built.
Scotland also a prime example. The vast majority of the so called natural trails the mags and individuals on here wax lyrical about were / are variously: drove roads, military roads, coffin roads & Stalkers paths
Trail centre kitty litter versus "man-made" other stuff?
DONT FEED THE TROLL 😉
stevomcd - Member
I'd much rather ride twisty trails at Glentress, Kirroughtree, Laggan or Golspie than a lot of the straight-line, dull, dull, dull boulder fields that comprise many Lakes and Peak bridleways (not all, I know).
Yes not all indeed,variation there is in them,loads of twisty old packhorse trails,Cut Gate for one, And boulder fields are super fun to ride and get down,
trail centres most of the time is too predictable imo,once you ride them all i think..
Sfbarnes is that Chapel Gate in one of the pics?
Sfbarnes is that Chapel Gate in one of the pics?
no, the other side of the hill, from Rushup down to the turn towards The Roych
ahaa yeah other way,drop offs going down it...