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"we’re just waiting now for some fine weather to dry it out to finalise the course" - hope it doesn't rain like it did in 2012.


 
Posted : 05/02/2013 8:38 am
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I can't complain as it's moved to only a couple of miles up the road, but this made me chuckle...

The venue is on rock, a fine draining rock which is good
I guess they're glossing over the fact that Gatcombe Horse Trials were cancelled due to the wet in 2012.


 
Posted : 05/02/2013 8:56 am
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Sounds exciting, I have been considering making it my first 24hr, but twenty12 might just pip it, 7.5mile laps are quite short with mayhem numbers of riders.

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Posted : 05/02/2013 8:57 am
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[i] 7.5mile laps are quite short with mayhem numbers of riders. [/i]

[ahem]

"We need a minimum of an eight mile course"

We have about seven and a half miles of trails that have been used for hunting and shooting [i]plus mediaeval trails that we are allowed to use.[/i]

[/ahem]


 
Posted : 05/02/2013 9:03 am
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well that should guarantee plenty of TV and press coverage


 
Posted : 05/02/2013 9:05 am
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But what date is it?


 
Posted : 05/02/2013 9:08 am
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But what date is it?

a week earlier 15-16 , you can camp from 14th .


 
Posted : 05/02/2013 9:15 am
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"We need a minimum of an eight mile course"

😀

As well as a new tape measure, they could also probably do with brushing up on their geography.

All the northern people want us in the north and all the southern people want us to be in the south so it’s important to find somewhere in the middle.

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Posted : 05/02/2013 9:18 am
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Beginning to think we need two events, bring on "Mayhem North".

If only "Hit the North" was bigger, longer and warmer.


 
Posted : 05/02/2013 9:24 am
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Woah! More convenient. That's good. Need to revise my sleep stop for the way home.

Big question. What tyres?


 
Posted : 05/02/2013 9:25 am
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Doesnt look very hilly - not blown away


 
Posted : 05/02/2013 9:28 am
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Lets look at the topography;

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?X=387467&Y=199344&A=Y&Z=115&ax=387345&ay=199072


 
Posted : 05/02/2013 9:41 am
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Lots of woods, lots of singletrack = not good racing.

Might be good for a ride with a few mates, but put a few hundred racers all queuing up to get through the singletrack.......

Eastnor in the mud last year was a nightmare, 2006 in the dry was epic. Anywhere in the mud is going to be as bad.


 
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Princess Anne places ?

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Gatcombe would make an excellent venue I live round the corner and can see some jumps from my office! Can't see it though.

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Good shout these men ^^^(from earlier speculative thread).


 
Posted : 05/02/2013 9:50 am
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Lots of woods, lots of singletrack = not good racing

That's hilarious,so if it was in a field just going around in circles you'd be happier.........


 
Posted : 05/02/2013 9:50 am
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To be fair, endless singletrack at an event with Olympians and MTB virgins riding together doesn't really work!


 
Posted : 05/02/2013 9:53 am
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Lets look at the topography;

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?X=387467&Y=199344&A=Y&Z=115&ax=387345&ay=199072

Thanks that makes me feel better - lots of nice contour lines. I was looking at a photo which wasnt very inspiring.
Might give it a go then


 
Posted : 05/02/2013 9:54 am
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[i]Doesnt look very hilly - not blown away [/i]

It's very hilly (or certainly has the capacity to be very hilly).


 
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Good shout these men ^^^(from earlier speculative thread).

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Gatcombe Park

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Posted : 05/02/2013 10:45 am
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I don't think the estate covers a lot of the woods, I expect they will use the eventing tracks from March or similar.

Looks like lots of options and zig-zaging up/down most inclines will knacker most...

It would be good if they did have course options this year similar to Olympic course, put some litigation obstacles in place, shorter quicker but gnarly, or perhaps a commemorative 2012 mud pit option.


 
Posted : 05/02/2013 10:52 am
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have to pay the bridge fee now 😉 👿

Discussing whether Loco Racing will be fielding a team at the moment 😀


 
Posted : 05/02/2013 10:53 am
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It is very hilly, or could be. It's set in a steep valley. I lived a couple of miles away until last year (doh!).


 
Posted : 05/02/2013 10:54 am
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Anyone know if the Shore will be a permanant fixture?


 
Posted : 05/02/2013 10:56 am
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Has this event now sold out then? Certainly what the website suggests (I've been confused by various posts querying whether they may or may not be entering.)


 
Posted : 05/02/2013 10:58 am
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Not much Strava activity: http://app.strava.com/segments/2758507

Edit: Looking at the website it would appear either entries are sold out, or they haven't come out yet. Probably the latter tbh.


 
Posted : 05/02/2013 10:58 am
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they could also probably do with brushing up on their geography.

Everyone intelligent knows the north starts at Walsall. So Gatcombe is exactly halfway between the south coast and Walsall.
Sorted! 🙂


 
Posted : 05/02/2013 10:59 am
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Has this event now sold out then?

No, not opened yet. Feb 28th innit?


 
Posted : 05/02/2013 11:00 am
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Reading this thread makes me smile - typical STW

Lots of wooded singletrack = complaints that racing will be bad
Lots of wide tracks = complaints of boring course
Always complaints that it won't be hilly enough
It's always in the wrong location
Course will be wrong
etc

I think we need to give Pat and the team the credit that they've done this a fair bit now, understand that there needs to be a balance and they are by far the best people to make sure the event ticks as many boxes as possible.

After last year it had to move otherwise too many people would have decided enough was enough and they seem to think Gatcombe has what it takes to make a decent venue.

That's good enough for me.


 
Posted : 05/02/2013 11:01 am
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Damn it.... Will also have to pay the bridge fee this year 🙁 But will be there whatever the course/weather...


 
Posted : 05/02/2013 11:01 am
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You can't enter until the end of Feb.

Anyone got an idea on pricing for a team of 10? Last years price will do as a guide but I can't find it. Thanks.


 
Posted : 05/02/2013 11:01 am
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Posted : 05/02/2013 11:02 am
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Definitely potential for a great course if the juicy bits of the estate are used. I ride through it daily and know the area well. Plenty of open sections as per the eventing course. Contour long climbs possible as well as short very steep ones.
A lot of the tracks are high and have little topsoil, Cotswold limestone which grips nice in the dry and not bad on the wet. . Woods if used and its not dried out will be wet beech loam, hero dirt when it's nice, hard work otherwise. Links wise 25 mins from m4/m5. Rickie Cotter lives a stones throw from the course and its her training ground, there's your female solo winner!


 
Posted : 05/02/2013 11:07 am
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Sounds good - but as with all of these events it is really down to the weather.

If its cheap I may enter and just bail out if the weather makes it no more fun to ride.


 
Posted : 05/02/2013 11:24 am
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Doh! Always read the information...
Thanks for the Replies


 
Posted : 05/02/2013 11:25 am
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This may be an opportunity to prove that bikes cause less surface damage than horses. 😉
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/equestrian/18768225

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Posted : 05/02/2013 11:27 am
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Oops, sorry Mr aracer 😳

Perhaps there will be CX style obstacles at the new venue:

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Posted : 05/02/2013 11:43 am
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😀


 
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Doesn't look too far from Cotswold Farm Park where the Bonty 24/12 was held about 5/6 years back and that was a great course (apart from when it rained, which it did, a lot, which turned it into a slither/bogfest).


 
Posted : 05/02/2013 12:05 pm
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I don't believe STW sometimes...

No-one has ever raced there before but people are already complaining that it's not a "Mountain", the course is too short, not hilly enough, too much singletrack, too much woodland, too far south...

Seriously, WTF?!

If you can do better in finding a private estate with good access, enough space to fit thousands of people, cars, caravans, tents, trucks, showers, portaloos and with enough scope to run a decent MTB course round it, then go for it.


 
Posted : 05/02/2013 12:40 pm
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Doesn't look too far from Cotswold Farm Park where the Bonty 24/12 was held about 5/6 years back and that was a great course (apart from when it rained, which it did, a lot, which turned it into a slither/bogfest).

I don't know gatcombe, but i do live in the cotswolds, i think the Bonty course was pretty representative of what may be available. It can get incredibly muddy, in a deeply unpleasant sticky clogging way. But it can also be very free draining and fast in any weather. Depending on how the course is laid out it could be dry or it might not be. Real issue is how much is in the valley bottom which will probably be wet.

So no ideas what the course will be like.


 
Posted : 05/02/2013 2:11 pm
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Gatcombe estate is mainly up high or on valley contours if that makes sense. The bits that are low in the woods will be muddy unless we have a very dry spring. The woods are managed so plenty of access tracks/fire road. Think workmans wood in sheepscombe mrmo.


 
Posted : 05/02/2013 2:38 pm
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Thanks Tang,

Think workmans wood in sheepscombe mrmo.

so potentially very wet but in a way that still allows you to ride. just very filthy?

Are the high up bits comparable with Cleeve or Painswick Golf Course, ie dry short grass, fast, loose gravel where grass worn away? but never ever wet?


 
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Just a shame you can't arrive till the Friday 🙁

Team sumo will be at www.twentyfour12.com this year, raising money for disadvantaged children


 
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Are the high up bits comparable with Cleeve or Painswick Golf Course, ie dry short grass, fast, loose gravel where grass worn away? but never ever wet?

No, probably not. It's just off the side of Minch common but the similarity ends there. I raced at the Cotswold Farm Park 24. I'd guess it'll be similar, and yeah, similar to Sheepscombe too. And Avening, which is the other side of the same valley.


 
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