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Wow, that brings back memories. 10 years ago I had a car ram me, then get out and do exactly that... He got a year for assault when it went to court.
Jeez.
Can only hope that video will serve to secure a conviction.
he didn't like being called a Muppet. should go down well in court "l just lost it when he verbally abused me mlud... "
Company name on van along with email address and phone numbers, , nissan behind would be a witness , number plates visible and police are asking for the cyclist to contact them on twiter.
But the bin lorry did come close on passing and then did a left turn in front of little van and little big man.
Youtube comments say cyclist is talking to police. Did anybody count how many different offences were committed by the van driver in that video?
To point out the "other" side of the argument the cyclist was not paying attention or foreseen further issues as he undertook at a junction over a yellow box whilst there was a refuse vehicle navigating the left hand turn and blocking the progress of the van driver and the cyclist.
That in no way excuses the action of the van driver but sometimes cyclists can be dicks as well.
I think he might need a new mobile phone and a bit of sign writing at the very least. I think that number will be busy, and not with offers of work.
Holy s***!!!! What a muppet.
How long before some says he should have been 'prime'?
Definitely riding in the wrong position.
Holy s***!!!! What a muppet.
The van driver, not the cyclist.
Taylor Landscaping. Tel: 01268 710922; Mob: 07939640764 (Lee).
Is that [b]Taylor landscaping[/b] in [b]billericay[/b] probably criminal behaviour, GBH, affray, criminal assault, dangerous driving?
Was that Taylor landscaping in billericay? Lee Taylor?
Van Driver: [b]****![/b]
Hope they catch & convict him.
Is that Taylor landscaping in billericay probably criminal behaviour, GBH, affray, criminal assault, dangerous driving?
Was that Taylor landscaping in billericay? Lee Taylor?
Yeah, I think you right, [b]Taylor landscaping[/b] in [b]billericay[/b], committing criminal behaviour, GBH, affray, criminal assault, dangerous driving etc. to me.
Passenger smoking in a company owned van, against the law as well,
not a very good camera angle but i dont think the rider was any worse than a bit naive to go down the inside when there is a side road on the left but i don't think the van was indicating.
he should do a few '00 hours community service, compensate the rider and not be allowed to drive until he has passed his full cycling proficiency test. and a 6 month driving ban.
The only thing i would say is 'essex'.
?…..and a cyclist riding like a dick into a totally 100% avoidable situation of his own doing……..or is it just myself and neilwheel who considers such a scenario to be at least part way to blame?.
Anyway….carry on the witch hunt and bring out the burning torches, lets see if he floats or sinks.
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Cyclist was being a cock though, undertaking like that. His youtube channel seems to be full of videos of confrontation, not sure if it is all him but if it is he seems to get into an unusually high number of confrontations. Gotta say I think it's another case of righteous cyclist with camera looking for trouble and getting it.
STW concludes assault victim deserved it shocker 🙄
Is that Taylor landscaping in billericay probably criminal behaviour, GBH, affray, criminal assault, dangerous driving?
Was that Taylor landscaping in billericay? Lee Taylor?
Yeah, I think you right, Taylor landscaping in billericay, committing criminal behaviour, GBH, affray, criminal assault, dangerous driving etc. to me.
Is that Taylor landscaping in billericay probably criminal behaviour, GBH, affray, criminal assault, dangerous driving?
Was that Taylor landscaping in billericay? Lee Taylor?
Yeah, I think you right, Taylor landscaping in billericay, committing criminal behaviour, GBH, affray, criminal assault, dangerous driving etc. to me.
Oops, I appear to have double pasted that but I agree that Taylor landscaping in billericay probably criminal behaviour, GBH, affray, criminal assault, dangerous driving just to start.
Dont engage with the trolls
Van driver runs over cyclist then assaults him
Van driver in lots of trouble
Cyclist not in any
Only issue is how much trouble the van driver is in and what happens to him now
End of debate - though they wont go away
It's criminal assault. Everything else is noise. Even if the cyclist wasn't squeaky clean, realistically speaking he might have held someone up for a few seconds at worst.
The cyclist seems fairly incompetent tbh but how can anyone defend intentionally knocking him off them attacking him ffs? Shouting at a driver for dangerous driving counts as incitement?
(the undertake at the junction was frankly idiotic - if he'd been left hooked there it'd be entirely his fault. But that's not what happened)
Apparently, police are asking the rider to come forward.
STW concludes assault victim deserved it shocker
I'll bite - if he hadn't undertaken when the lorry was turning left and looked back at the driver in that manner, the assault would never have happened, he did provoke it.
driver got upset about being told to get off phone & looks like will get whats coming to him
I'll bite - if he hadn't undertaken when the lorry was turning left and looked back at the driver in that manner, the assault would never have happened, he did provoke it.
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Can anyone recommend a landscape gardener in the Basildon/Billericay area?
Cyclist cuts in front of van just as the rubbish truck is clear enough for the van driver to get past.
I wouldn't done that, it would have failed my "Dick Move? Y/N" test, even given the previous dick move by the van driver. What's the point?
However, van overtaking and boxing in cyclist before obvious obstruction ahead also = dick move, along with knocking cyclist off his bike and getting violent. With a guy wearing a camera, who'll have your face and company details on camera? Stupid, massive dick move.
Deserves some serious inconvenience.
I grew up in Billericay. People like that are why I got the hell out of Essex as soon as I could.
STW concludes assault victim deserved it shocker
Do we?, if i'm speaking on behalf of stw then all hail somafunk and bow down before me all you plebs - yeah!…that includes you., otherwise the entire incident was 100% avoidable, and at no point did i or anyone say the victim deserved it.
suck it up cat boy
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LOOK AT ME
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?…..and a cyclist riding like a dick into a totally 100% avoidable situation of his own doing……..or is it just myself and neilwheel who considers such a scenario to be at least part way to blame?.
Not just you. But it doesn't excuse the assault.
Yep. I'm not sure exactly what he thought would happen if he shouted 'Get off the phone you muppet' to two guys passing in a van but that scenario was reasonably likelyNot just you. But it doesn't excuse the assault
how can anyone defend intentionally knocking him off them attacking him ffs?
No one is defending the driver. People are saying the situation was avoidable. First rule of self defence is not to get into the situation in the first place.
I say that as a cyclist who once exchanged words with a driver who was later done for assaulting me after we had stopped. I now know not to be cocky to drivers and to be more careful of the potential consequences of my riding actions
I had a car with two guys in it shout at me out of the window today as they passed by, just to scare me. I don't think they really expected me to catch up with them at the lights and knock on their window to have a chat but I did. However they weren't opening their window when I knocked and I thought better of opening their door as there were two of them. I was angry but wasn't going to push my luckI say that as a cyclist who once exchanged words with a driver who was later done for assaulting me after we had stopped
General rules of road riding:
Don't put yourself in a dangerous situation, whether you have a camera or not.
Don't shout at other road users when in a vulnerable position.
Don't lay on the floor if you are capable of getting up.
(Especially when numpty van driver who just drove into you is out of vehicle and approaching.)
Disclaimer: Maybe just a crisis actor.
He should of got up and lamped the little ****. ****ing knuckle draggers. Talking on your phone whilst driving, you should expect to be called a muppet; or worse.
Why do people like this even exist?!?! Just cull the lot of them.
But it doesn't excuse the assault.
Of course not as I said there's no excuse for the van drivers behaviour, his actions will most likely earn him a well deserved physical assault charge and a vehicular assault charge along with a hefty fine.
D'ya want a date junkyard?, I do have a few conditions to set out beforehand. I get to choose the restaurant (vegi), no playing footsie under the table, we go Dutch on the bill, no running to your mates in the playground afterwards telling them you got to first base ( I ain't that kind of boy), you don't get to refer to me as your [i]bitch[/i]. I want to bring along another stw forum member as a chaperone, not that I don't trust you or anything but all I know of you is from your posts on here and from my surmising of your character I'd feel more comfortable with someone who could intervene.
Deal?.
If you;re saying the cyclist is "at least partway to blame" then yes you're making excuses for the driver.
Bad drivers on their phones are a danger to everyone, especially cyclists which some of us on here are.
Also, it's often said that for evil to triumph, all it takes is to good men to do nothing.
Maybe the cyclist is sick and tired of being endangered by such drivers and is trying to do something about it. Maybe his method is questionable but it looks like he's getting results in this case.
Taylor Landscaping. Tel: 01268 710922; Mob: 07939640764 (Lee).Is that Taylor landscaping in billericay probably criminal behaviour, GBH, affray, criminal assault, dangerous driving?
Was that Taylor landscaping in billericay? Lee Taylor?
No, it's Taylor Gardening Services, Colchester.
Taylor Landscaping Ltd changed its name to:
TAYLOR GARDENING SERVICES LTD
LODGE PARK LODGE LANE
LANGHAM
COLCHESTER
ESSEX
CO4 5NE
Company No. 07588866
on 25/7/2014
The only director is
CHRISTOPHER LEWIS TAYLOR
Registered Address: 16 Recreation Walk, Ramsden Heath, Billericay, Essex, England, CM11 1HZ
Lee?
LEE DANIEL TAYLOR
Registered Address: Lodge Park Lodge Lane, Langham, Colchester, Essex, England, CO4 5NE
Resigned as a director on 25/7/2014
http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk//companysearch?link=51
http://companycheck.co.uk/company/07588866/TAYLOR-GARDENING-SERVICES-LTD/directors-secretaries
Read more at: http://companycheck.co.uk/director/915904753
Read more at: http://companycheck.co.uk/director/915904752
If you;re saying the cyclist is "at least partway to blame" then yes you're making excuses for the driver.
My gut feeling is that the rider encouraged this situation, no excuses made for muppets like the van driver.
Northwind - Member
If you;re saying the cyclist is "at least partway to blame" then yes you're making excuses for the driver.
Total Rubbish.
There are complete and utter inexcusable total dicks out there. Who do totally inexcusable, hateful things. No getting away from that fact.
There are ways of reducing the likelihood of them doing totally inexcusable, hateful things to you. He didn't do enough of them.
