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So is "Freeride" just riding regular xc trails, but with full face helmets & a load of padding?
To be fair some of the tumbles they take in the vid warrant more armour than an xc ride!
The sound tracks says '3,2,1 and have fun'. They look like they're having a whole hell of a lot of it. Who the hell cares? They're pushing themselves and trying to get better. How else are you sposed to? You don't need body armour when you're leet, you need body armour when you're just starting to learn where the limits of your own skills and bikes are. If I ride tomorrow with half the attitude this lot have, I'd be proud. More money than sense? More fun than money :O)
Bless - think i might have done a bit of editing though
Fair play to them for having a go, but if you're going to drop a shed load of cash on fancy bikes when you're basically pretty terrible at riding, you sort of open yourself up for criticism.
The term "all the gear, no idea" is a derogatory term for a reason, no matter whether others on here would care to admit it or not.
I'm not convinced that using bodyarmour as a crutch for your lack of riding skill is necessarily the best idea either....
We all start some where or were you born a demon rider?
Brilliant. Haven't laughed so much in ages.
Yes, we do all need to start somewhere, just generally not on £1000+ bikes!
Why not if they have the spare cash then they can get what they want. Bunch of mates having fun on bikes, awesome.
love the way the 2nd guy has to avoid a chicken on the "run in"
Guess he took the chicken run.
Absolutely. I couldn't agree more. Their money, their choice.
But equally, if they choose to stick a video on the internet of them riding bikes of a quality well beyond their riding skill, it's sort of to be expected that people will point and laugh.
Ok so, oli an,d alpin can you please enlight me about how I should spend my cahs on bikes regarding my skills please... i'd ahte to be a AGNI...
Mind you there is french saying:
On est tous le con de quelqu'un...
Maybe we are all someone (somebody) else's AGNI...
If you're down to the 06 alpin please by all mean give me a shout. I have friends with very expensive bike, maybe you could rate how much of AGNI they are...
And can we know what guiding company you work for...
Riding beyond their skill? I'd say pushing themselves a little more to get better and encouraged by all but 3 of you who must be riding legends.
Juan,
As already established, I couldn't give two hoots how you spend your money.
However, if you don't want people to judge you and your choices regarding how you spend your money, don't go shoving videos of yourself on the internet.
P.s. I'm not sure there's a need for "that word" regardless of what language it's in.
Yes, we do all need to start somewhere, just generally not on £1000+ bikes!
It's all relative. If they come from families with lots of coin, then it's likely that they're going to be getting pricey bikes in the same way the get the latest computer/games stuff, shoes/clothes/whatever.
Knowing what I know now, I'd have loved to have started riding on a high-end bike that worked well. Should we all start out on a £150 craptastic full-suspension from Tesco (or whatever the German equivalent is)? To me, it makes perfect sense to start on the very best you (or whoever's paying!) can afford. If that happens to be a £2000 DH bike, then so be it.
I reckon they were pissed.
Drac,
You've misinterpreted me: I'm not saying they're riding beyond their skill (I'm not, however, saying that they're not either!), I'm saying that one might reasonably expect someone with a bike of a particular value to be of a standard not too far below the relative cost of the bike. IMHO, this is not the case here.
I am merely trying to present some balance to the discussion in response to those of you who are showing a degree of pious indignation that anyone could possibly be anything less than awestruck by a video posted on the internet of people riding expensive bikes badly.
Three_Fish:
See above post regarding my views on people spending their own money as they please.
lowey - MemberI reckon they were pissed.
Nah.
If they were pished they'd have riden betterer.
[i]I'm saying that one might reasonably expect someone with a bike of a particular value to be of a standard not too far below the relative cost of the bike. IMHO, this is not the case here.[/i]
I can't see how the value of a bike has anything to do with the skill level of the rider, unless you completely shallow.
Looked fun 🙂 That's what it's all about in'it?
Not awestruck, it's funny :O) But I still think fair play to them for trying. Yours, a £1k bike owner who is now going to crawl under a rock and never ride it again for fear someone will come along next time I'm flat on my back and laugh their ass of at me as they ride off on a perfect line into the distance. On a supermarket bike. With no body armour.
I've got two expensive, £2000+ bikes but ride like a drunken chimp - should i never touch them again in case twunts like alpin get offended?
muddydwarf.
get an entry for SSUK 2010 you'll feel right at home. 8)
As already pointed out, "all the gear, no idea" is a well know derogatory phrase. By extension, we can deduce that it is not a commonly held value system that spending inordinately large amounts of money on something that you are not suitably good at is just fine.
What constitutes an inordinately large amount of money or being suitably good is obviously a matter of opinion.
I'm selling my bikes now 🙁 Alpen made me ;-(
...one might reasonably expect someone with a bike of a particular value to be of a standard not too far below the relative cost of the bike.
Why might one reasonably expect such a thing?
Loulouk, Muddydwarf,
Do what you please, but I'd personally advise against posting videos of yourself on the internet if you don't wish to be judged.
Hell, bask in the warm feeling that you've earned enough money to be able to mess with other people's value systems if you really want! 😆
Some of you expensive bike intollerent folks should go to an MX meeting to understand the true meaning of all the gear no idea...
Three_fish,
See my post two posts above yours.
I don't make the rules.
£1000? I'm sure I saw a ti-spring on one of those bikes, now spend what you like but if you're not a serious (and competent) racer that is a case of fashion over function and IMO will make you look a bit of a prick, unless you're one of the fastest on the hill.
What are the rules?
I'm saying that one might reasonably expect someone with a bike of a particular value to be of a standard not too far below the relative cost of the bike.
so if you're crap you ride a cheap bike, if you're very skilled you ride an expensive one?
I may suggest that the users of this very forum fly in the face of that statement
redthunder - what bikes you selling then?
If the cap fits.....
See my post two posts above yours.I don't make the rules.
Your post two above mine didn't explain why one should reasonably expect someone with a bike of a particular value to be of a standard not too far below the relative cost of the bike. It explained why some people might expect such a thing, but it was in no way reasonable. There are countless other factors that one could reason into such a question.
A reasonable view is generally that defined by the majority. My post explained that there is a strong indication that the majority view supports my assertion.
I don't think I know enough about bikes yet to see from looking at something how much it cost. Which is possibly skewing my opinion here. My bike cost a whole tonne of money [b]to me[/b]. If theirs cost 2.5 times that, well, I guess they got lucky. But I don't begrudge them that, and at least they're not sat in a garage doing nothing, which frankly applies to too many people I know and their expensive toys. I don't earn a lot, so I bought what I could make the repayments on after having my £300 quid GT Outpost nicked. *shrugs*
I don't doubt they expected to get laughed at when they posted it, but I doubt this was the kind of laughter they were expecting.
I thought they were having a right laugh, anyway whats wrong with crashing its fun
[i]A reasonable view is generally that defined by the majority. My post explained that there is a strong indication that the majority view supports my assertion.[/i]
Yet a majority on this thread agree it's a bunch of lads enjoying a day out on bikes, riding ok and then falling off sometimes. But a handful seem quick enough to judge them saying "Oooh your not good enough for that bike get off!".
[i]My post explained that there is a strong indication that the majority view supports my assertion.[/i]
I think the majority of the other posts on here suggest otherwise.
Beat me to it!
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Oli B I support your view!
Too many times have a seen a spanking BMW turn up in a car park for a DH uplift day and proud parent helps their youngster get out a bike worth as much as many peoples car.
Fine, I don't care, but don't expect all the other youngsters riding beaten old hard tails zip tied and duct taped together, who repeatedly thrash him down the hill, to not be pi55ing themselves at the walking embodiment of 'all the gear and no idea'.