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It's a plus size tyre, it's a lot t more material than a normal tyre
I don't think that has ANY bearing on cost - the materials cost in a bike tyre is tiny.
However, look at a Maxxis catalogue from 7 years ago. How many different sizes of tyre did they make? Different compounds or carcasses don't add tooling cost, just warehousing cost.
I'm just guessing but I'd say they made the DHF in 26x2.1,2.35,2.5,2.7 and 29x2.1,2.35; so that's five moulds.
Now they make the DHF in eleven different sizes. Are they selling twice as many tyres?
I used to help run a reasonably local 10k run. at £10-15 an entry, with 250 entrants, it would just about break even.
@nickc
Medical cover, cost of insurance, land costs, access, marshall's, cost of timing systems, did anyone get covered for their time?
I'd say at least half the riders at Haldon trail centre ride 26" bikes worth probably <£100. Mtb can be as cheap or as expensive as you like. The variety is great and they seem to be having great fun, same as I do on my parkwood or rigid retro bike worth about 25 quid.
I'd never pay 100 quid for a tyre but then I'm tight and I have normal narrow 29er wheels.
I'm sure in a few years the price of these will come down.
Well, that escalated (not quickly), but somehow from my shock at a frankly, stupidly expensive tyre, to a row about racing. Hmm. I'm not middle class and I can't afford to spend £180 for tyres for a bike, but I do mountain bike, I can afford the bits I need/want. Tyres for that much can **** right off.
You can get the same tyre in Germany for seventy euro or so. £108 is just a distributor taking the piss.
Here's a front and rear set for not much more.
Maxxis are milking the faithful in my opinion.
Fat bike tyres I could understand, tooling up and size of tyre plus dev and to get into a market they weren’t part of.
Their wide Trail thing? Not so much. Other companies have been producing plus tyres at lower prices for years, Maxxis want to tweak the standard slightly and brand it while charging for the privilege of gaining what they will see as a competitive edge. That’s taking the mick in my book. If they want new branded standards? Fine, but spend their own $$$.
Personal opinion, others will vary !
RRPs mean so little in the MTB world for the most part. I recently bought a brand new 29x3 DHR II 3C for £40 which seems fair given the size of the thing.
vincienup - MemberTheir wide Trail thing? Not so much.
They're great tyres but imo that's all, I have a 2.5 non-wt dhf and a 2.4 wt dhr2 on the same rims, they are both round and good and if it didn't say WT on the side of one nobody'd know.
But the 2.5 shorty is genius whether or not it's WT. And that's kind of the issue with expensive tyres- it really hurt my soul to pay £50 for that shorty but it's really a pretty small price increase over a cheaper tyre, if it works better.
Binners would love this thread.
It’s full of chips
Crikey! It's all kicked off on this thread.
Yes, a £100 bike tyre is eye-wateringly expensive.
My current tyres of choice are 26" Chunky Monkeys. £13 each ATM. I doubt the Maxxis are 8x better...
Bloody hell! Going to take mine off and get them in the classifieds 😆
I doubt the Maxxis are 8x better
Well, they wouldn’t fit your rims, so that’s a given...
[i]RRPs mean so little in the MTB world[/i]
Yeah, they're only £89.99 on the site 😮
TroutWrestler - Member
Crikey! It's all kicked off on this thread.Yes, a £100 bike tyre is eye-wateringly expensive.
My current tyres of choice are 26" Chunky Monkeys. £13 each ATM. I doubt the Maxxis are 8x better...
My favourite tyre. Needs a bit more pressure than a super gravy or WTB tough, but a great all rounder and the price of a box of Stella or less than a stupid strap to hold a spare tube on.
Your £13 On one chunky monkeys are made by CST. the same people/factories that make Maxxis bicycle tyres
Yep I think the world and it’s dog knows that.
giantalkali - Member
Remember kids, mountain biking is about laughing and doing skids in a forest, not scowling and posing in a car park
Your comment reminded me of this video 😆 .....
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If you don't like it and think they're too expensive, I suppose you have two options; 1) don't buy them 2) get a better job.
Or whinge online obviously.
Mtbing is not inaccessible and plenty of good kit can be had cheap but..
100 quid for a tyre is just ridiculous.
It annoys me that they know folks want the best kit and are beginning to take the pee pee a bit. Sure you don't have to buy it, but I don't like how it's increasing becoming a sport whereby the best equipment is solely the preserve of affluent middle classes.
[i]Or whinge online obviously.[/i]
Is "whinge" in the dictionary, or would you like someone to give you a definition?
gwurk - Member
Your £13 On one chunky monkeys are made by CST. the same people/factories that make Maxxis bicycle tyres
Yes because production costs are the only driver of retail price
giantalkali - Member
Remember kids, mountain biking is about laughing and doing skids in a forest, not scowling and posing in a car park.
Hope you're not using plus sizes Maxxis tyres for doing those skids
I can't afford to, 26" ain't dead round these parts
Yes because production costs are the only driver of retail price
You're finally ready to admit price are inflated because of #Fashion and because there's a fairly large group of afluent gullible cyclists craving latest latest shiny shiny.
Knew you'd get there in the end Bob
They're having an online sale
http://shop.maxxis.co.uk/products.aspx?featuredsection=d#resultspage,1|resultsperpage,10000|
I still prefer to pick up second hand tyres others have ridden a few times before deeming them 'crap' or 'not getting on with them'.
Three bikes in our household are wearing a few ride old, £30 or less a pair tyres. I even have one generously given free pair.... I just permanently keep an eye out for a 'good' tyre, rather than a specific model.
I make my own tyres from discarded condoms and Play-Doh. They work every bit as well as the life-styling, so-called premium brands, but cost next to nothing to produce, I can't believe anyone spends money on mountain bike components, it's turning into a billionaire's playground.
In next week's instalment, I tell you how to make your own extra-wide rims from a discarded tumble-drier drum and ask the question, do you really need to buy a chain when you can find paper clips lying around the office doing nowt.
Reading page 1 of this thread and I was thinking Gwurk has to be trolling Mike, why is he so full of hate, when the other comment appeared telling Mike to stay down under Id assumed Gwurk had a second account and was trolling from this too! Staying with page 1, IMO Maxxis are pricey, buy Schwalbe...
Take a look around at the next race or trail centre you go to and tell me the about the demographic. I’ll bet you £10 it is predominately affluent, white, middle class males.
If you only look at trail centres and races you'll only see what you want to see, I see plenty of kids in my local town centre riding around on MTB's trying to bunny hop and jump stairs, equally when I go to the nearest spot which you can ride too, I see lots of kids on cheap bikes making kickers from mud and having a whale of a time. This is how I and maybe many others on here got into biking.
My opinion for why at trail centres and races you see more white middle class people is because of vehicle ownership and disposable income, smaller cheaper cars dont carry bikes well and Id guess most non middle class parents may be too busy to take their children to an overpriced car park and coffee shop whilst their kids disappears for several hours each weekend.
[quote=oikeith ]Id assumed Gwurk had a second account and was trolling from this too!
He's had way more than one account over the years. Ban hammered a few times from memory.
oikeith - MemberId assumed Gwurk had a second account
He's not that subtle 😆
STW Forum member outraged by high-end niche products costing money... shocker.
It costs to fill up a T5/6.
Well wouldya look at that. They musta seen my thread 😀
http://singletrackworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/maxxis-slashes-tyres-the-price-that-is
@DezB:
haha. Great!
Interesting to read this thread - and now the outcome
http://singletrackworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/maxxis-slashes-tyres-the-price-that-is
In this case with, with the Maxxis 'DUBAI-pricing': yes, Maxxis went way too far. Production cost of a Maxxis tyre maybe £10 ?
If they sell them now for £60 : fair enough!
😉
Hopefully this is the start of the end of demand driven pricing. Most stuff,especially hobbies and leisure,seems to have a price point not set by production and distribution but by demand and media driven trends.
In other words prices are what they can be and not what it actually costs.
@crasher50:
what helps us right now: fierce competition in the bike tyre market.
The crazy pricing attracted new (and good) players.
Same happens right now with forks. The new SF18 Auron and new Durolux put a lot of pressure onto Fox...
Or drive train: look at the 2018 YT Jeffsy - they opted for 1x11 e*thirteen 9-46 and not for SRAM 1x12. (but at the same time: lots of media crap going on with YT ...)
The YT Jeffsy 2018 is 300 bucks cheaper than the 2017 version!
Too much "DUBAI" attracted new players.
Competition kicks in.
Great for us!
😉
crasher, this is a market economy. If Maxxis is reducing its prices, it is because of its reading of the market (which includes their production costs and manufacturing capacity and their perception of where their competitors will be).
For me, £60 a tyre still seems too much, but maybe if I needed plus sized tyres I would have to bite the bullet.
Also, possibly Maxxis were "[url= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_skimming ]skimming[/url]".
Makes perfect sense on the Skimming idea, recoup some machining costs, if the product is selling at the higher price it will certainly sell at a lower one. Make something back for the next production run and if it doesn't take off then you have at least got something back on the production costs.
The other way with tyres is make something that falls apart and needs replacing way more often or has paper sidewalls.
@greyspoke:
Skimming: nice! Didn't know this expression.
"Checking what people are willing to pay..."
For me, £60 a tyre still seems too much
I'am not a downhill racer. Same as you: never paid £60 for a (trail bike) tyre.
Additional: love the softer, grippy tyres. Means I need more than one set a year...
Same as Hope have done then?
For me, £60 a tyre still seems too much
Depends on how often you change and how long they last, the £/km figure would be more interesting and useful
And SRAM and Shimano - they are a bit more subtle: Introduce new technology in the top of the range (XTR XO or whatever SRAM call stuff these days) and then trickle it down to the level most people purchase at (XT etc.). (Of course, some of it is just plain expensive to do and so stays for the top end only.)