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Since it's for a hardtail, why not buy a light xc style front wheel and a more robust rear?
edit: I run 321s on two of my bikes. Haven't broke one yet and don't notice the [i]weight[/i].
This is all brilliant stuff everyone, thanks.
I think my choices are 717s or Arch EX's and how much I can afford. Sounds like I'll be happy with both and that Merlin is the place to go.
As long as people are confident I can NoTubes a 717 with just a trackpump then I might have to plump for them.
Cheers.
H
the death of a 717. Still this has taken about 20K miles, bee ridden on bikes from fully rigid to a 6 inch bouncer, taken 8 foot drops and all sorts of use....and that crack only happened as an accident with a cx rider which resulted in her drops going through my wheel and fubaring the spoke tension and buckling the wheel meant that I had to put an absurd, no...an ABSURD spoke tension on to bring the wheel back true....and that was 30 months ago....tht photo was 5 months ago...I'm still riding the wheel but I now have a bit of rim about 2 inches long and half its width that is no longer attached.
Yeah, I'm with Poddy. tough.
They are not, by any stretch of the imagination, either light, or an XC/AM
Depends what your interpretation of XC/AM is. I never said they were light. I said they weren't that heavy. And they're not.
If you truely believe what you wrote then you clearly have a poor imagination.
I like them a lot. They stay round and they keep rolling. I have to say that all this talk of tyre profiles leaves me cold. I've run 2.5 Timberwolfs on mine and never thought to wish for a wider rim.
I tried a pair of Stan Flow's at the weekend on a 29er. The front wheel went out of true on the ride while trying to get the back tyre off to fix a puncture was a total trauma. I had visions of having to walk down the Lairig Ghru pushing my bike as I cursed and swore trying to get the tyre to fit. Garrrrrrr!
I struggle to see the benefit of paying twice the price for rim's that are to my mind weaker and a major pain in the arse to change a puncture. 😀 My LBS refers to Stans as Stan So Soft's - I can now see why.
Sounds like bad building tbh.
+1 on the indestructable but too narrow front. Depends if U are a genuinly fast cornering rider. Perfect for me for about 10 years of my riding but im now riding at a level where I do roll them off the rim with a 2.35 highroller (which are actually pretty narrow)
Have moved on to stans
(reads post back and realises quite how arrogant I sound.....oops)
They're not bad, mine took some abuse before finally taco'ing on a badly landed 180, that was using them for street rather than intended use!
I am wonder how people manage to have a tyre to pop out a X717? I have been riding the whole tranvé with a 2.35 and I had no problem at all...
Popping a tyre off a rim is just a matter of the right combination of forces being applied. I've popped a tyre going up the climb of Whites trail at Afan. Same tyre, wheel and bike then spent a week in the Alps being abused by my terrible style without issue.
people are confident I can NoTubes a 717 with just a trackpump
Always did mine with a track pump, no bother. And that was with a bmx tube cut down, proper strips would make it easier. All mavic rims I've tried seem to tubeless easily.

