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Looking for some help with a set of RS Lyrik!

Is it possible to convert from solo air to 2 step?

Its either a set of these or 36 talas...would prefer the lyrik as I can service them myself.

Anyone any experience of this change?

Thanks


 
Posted : 18/06/2011 4:19 pm
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i prefer the lyriks with oil. the air just aint reliable


 
Posted : 18/06/2011 4:21 pm
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Is it possible to change between any of the different systems noted on the RS site?

Seems to be quite a few different options...


 
Posted : 18/06/2011 4:25 pm
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i got mine changed from air to coil


 
Posted : 18/06/2011 4:26 pm
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jedi - any idea how the process works for changing them from air to coil?


 
Posted : 18/06/2011 4:49 pm
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Converting [i]to[/i] 2-step? That's unique :mrgreen: If you want travel adjust, go over to u-turn, I've nothing against air suspension but the 2-step just isn't reliable enough (for example- mine broke in the [i]post[/i], never got as far as the trail!)

If you do want to make the conversion, I've got a brand-new warranty replacement 2-step spring in the garage. It's been fitted but I replaced it with coil as soon as I got it back. So by all means offer me money for that 😉

But really, coil is the better option. Fairly easy conversion too.


 
Posted : 18/06/2011 5:25 pm
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Thanks for the info!

I had heard of 2 step reliability issues...and although I like the idea of a coil the u-turn system puts me off slightly. On the fly and all that....

Was the coil mod expensive?


 
Posted : 18/06/2011 5:47 pm
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Not too bad. I bought a used u-turn assembly (includes the spring), there's a lot of these going around if you need a medium as people swap them out. Then I think all it needed was the topout springy thing, and the top cap and bolt, which I got new from TF.

In theory I could offset that by selling the 2-step parts but I start every sales pitch by going "I took this out of my forks because it's s**t" 😉 It's a shame, 2-step's a clever system but for a hard-use fork you need something you can rely on.

2-step's a bit more faffy but it's only 8 turns end-to-end IIRC, you can do it on the move on reasonably smooth trails or spin it all the way in (or out) in just a few seconds while stationary. The tradeoff is that it doesn't mess with the fork performance like TALAS does.

TBH I don't think there's a perfect travel-adjust 160mm fork, Lyrik u-turn is just the best there is from a pretty poor crowd. Maybe the 2-position TALAS is better, not tried it.


 
Posted : 18/06/2011 6:33 pm
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I agree, 160mm adjustable forks are a limited market. I tried a new 2 position talas some weeks ago. Its a lovely fork but pricetag and specialist service are putting me off.

I will take a look at u turn options! Thanks for your advise!


 
Posted : 18/06/2011 6:47 pm
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I went from 2-step to U-Turn, 2-step wasn't very reliable


 
Posted : 18/06/2011 7:27 pm
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So it really is as simple as get the spring unit thing, stick it in instead of the air cart? (plus topout bit and knob..)


 
Posted : 18/06/2011 7:33 pm
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yes..did it twice ..
would also recommend new oil


 
Posted : 18/06/2011 9:21 pm
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u-turn spring bit cost around £70 ish from TFT if I remember, but that was a couple of years ago now


 
Posted : 19/06/2011 8:16 am
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How does the 2 step problem manifest itself?
I've just fitted some 2011 2 steps (supposed to have reliability sorted) but I got them half price & I have a spare set of Pikes in case they need to go away for warranty work - not sure I'd have bought them if they were the only fork I owned.
I've only done four 20ish mile rides on them to date, but they're working very well & the 2 step function is something I use a lot - I also weighed them & they're only 230g more than the air pikes!


 
Posted : 19/06/2011 8:59 am
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2-step gradually becomes 1-step.


 
Posted : 19/06/2011 9:18 am
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snaps: Did you fit the 2 - step yourself?


 
Posted : 19/06/2011 9:40 am
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I swapped to the soft coil spring so have a medium(red) spare....open to offers


 
Posted : 19/06/2011 9:47 am
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2-step gradually becomes 1-step.

Is that @ the 115mm or 160mm?

snaps: Did you fit the 2 - step yourself?

No, they were 2 step airs from the factory


 
Posted : 19/06/2011 9:51 am
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Creep down to 115mm.

U-turn conversion is simple. If you can service a set of forks you can do the conversion.


 
Posted : 19/06/2011 9:55 am