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Springy with slacker head angle (of course). I dont want a full susser (I dont like how they feel rearwise) and I dont want to pay stoopid-money for a ti frame that I WILL scratch (careless handling etc) or justify the expense.

What is there out there?


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 6:20 pm
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one of these for daft long travel

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or one of these for 'smallish' long travel.

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I am of course biased 🙂

others

Cotic BFe
Genesis
Stiffee

the list is endless


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 6:23 pm
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I think t'Hora's already had an Alpine (for about 10 minutes !!)


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 6:27 pm
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I don't think the list is endless if you're looking for a 140mm plus HT with a 'springy' feel.

There are plenty that are currently quoted as being good for 130mm and I guess since all the trail forks have gone up to 140mm, next years will be 140mm compatible.

I'd love to be able to but a 140 or 150mm fork on something like a Cotic soul without it handling 'oddly'.


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 6:34 pm
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If I was in the market (which I'm not), and wasn't completely happy with my PA (which I am), and had some more money (which I don't), this would be top pf my shopping list:

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Posted : 09/06/2009 6:34 pm
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Wonder what Brant's new steel Pigleybop will be like - could tick your slack HA and long travel boxes?


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 6:35 pm
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I think t'Hora's already had an Alpine (for about 10 minutes !!)

Maybe I was hasty? Maybe I kept on thinking full sussers were the longride options?

How heavy is the alpine?
BFe is 5.5lb?
Transition is LUVLY but its over 6lb-going into full susser weight territory..


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 6:43 pm
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Just dont want a dull/lump of heavy metal between my legs- some sort of fancing butting, creative thinner tubes where possible and yet strong without being silly-ti money.


 
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My Alpine comes in around 30lb


 
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Just dont want a dull/lump of heavy metal between my legs- some sort of fancing butting, creative thinner tubes where possible and yet strong without being silly-ti money.

Chromag?


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 6:47 pm
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some sort of fancing butting, creative thinner tubes where possible and yet strong without being silly-ti money.

you're describing the blue pig there as far as I can see.


 
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Not mine but there is (or was) a gorgeous Chromag Samurai in Ralphies in Taunton for a grand - looked unused to me and kitted out with Pikes, Hope Pro 3 AM, Sram X0 etc etc


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 6:52 pm
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Mine above is 30.8 lbs inc pedals

The frame is about the same a BFe 5.5lbs

and that transition looks the 'dogs gonads' and I don't know why, it just looks right


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 6:54 pm
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Hora, I thought you had a Ti 456 ?

😯 🙄


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 6:55 pm
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[img] ?v=1225318138[/img]

It's the future...


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 6:58 pm
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Asked for the same advice a few weeks ago.
The Mmmbop is the one I'm keeping an eye on, any idea what the travel 'ideal' is for one?


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 6:58 pm
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any idea what the travel 'ideal' is for one?

140mm


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 7:03 pm
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Orange Crush should be on your shortlist too IMO.


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 7:04 pm
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http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=327444 Fack. too short on travel (possibly) but sweeeeeeeeet no?


 
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There's a bit of a buzz about Chromag bikes, any idea what sort of price range they fit in to? I know they are supposed to be getting more available over here soon. I am guessing 'expensive' will sum it up.


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 7:17 pm
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Not sure I'd call in springy but it does ride nice. Triple butted somewhere or other in the frame.

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Posted : 09/06/2009 7:27 pm
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These are my preferences.

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Posted : 09/06/2009 7:35 pm
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daveh, what is it?


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 7:39 pm
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[img]P7[/img]

One of these. They really are good. 😀


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 7:51 pm
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P7 was what came to my mind


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 7:56 pm
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sorry, but NONE of the above are LT hardtail.

now this..........

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I laughed. Out loud.

There's a banshee morphine on there with moto forks somewhere.


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 8:16 pm
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Bluepig? When your down there next could you look out for a lost violin?

I was climbing up this afternoon..looked left at a tree and noticed a sign 'lost, a Violin near Bluepig'. WTF?


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 8:16 pm
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daveh, what is it?

Hmmm yeah, the flash was strong with that one. Marin Rocky Ridge.


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 8:27 pm
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I think t'Hora's already had an Alpine (for about 10 minutes !!)

he must have got that 2nd hand as i think mike refused to sell him a frame


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 8:28 pm
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I thought he begged, grovelled and promised it was a 'keeper' then shortly after, there it was, gone 🙄


 
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MrSmith:

he must have got that 2nd hand as i think mike refused to sell him a frame

*s****s*


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 8:37 pm
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I'll take that on the chin (not Mike Chin), my chin 😆 8)


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 8:44 pm
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I was all [i]'steel is real'.

And then I got my Whyte 19.

With Rev U-Turns its a, er, revelation... 😕


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 9:07 pm
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Handjob, might even let you have a go on it one day!


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 11:03 pm
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Posted : 09/06/2009 11:16 pm
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Oh FFS I thought you'd owned all long travel hardtails 3 times over already.

PS wanna buy some Pikes to go with that?

No, Oh..


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 11:18 pm
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p7 on revs, sweet 😀


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 11:20 pm
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Sprog James, thinks his Summer Season is bees knees as an alrounder with alarming down hill ability


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 11:25 pm
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Seriously hora, haven't you owned an Alpine, a Chameleon, an Evil Sovereign and a Ti456 already?

You've gone through more long travel hardtails in the last coouple of years than many people have mountainbikes in a decade. Nowt wrong with that, but it [i]might[/i] suggest you're looking for something that they just don't know how to give you. 🙂


 
Posted : 10/06/2009 8:48 am
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I rode my Chameleon yesterday. Ti456? It marked bloody easily- one off and it was covered in scratches and grazed down one side. I'm very hamfisted with frames hence I dont want to spend £900 again on one.

Evil and Alpine, yes maybe I didnt ride them more first.


 
Posted : 10/06/2009 9:08 am
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Summer season? It err went back to its maker..


 
Posted : 10/06/2009 9:09 am
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Although I don't have the cash at the moment, my next hardtail will be 853 from these guys.

http://www.curtisbikes.co.uk


 
Posted : 10/06/2009 9:47 am
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having ridden a sovereign, alpine, chameleon & cotic I can honestly say I think they all ride better with a 100mm fork (and short stem).
if yer feet aren't so sore you have to pull over for a break you're not pushing a 100mm forked hardtail hard enough to actually warrant running a longer travel fork.

all IMO of course 😉


 
Posted : 10/06/2009 9:49 am
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Hora when are you going to learn you can't buy ability/skills, you just have to actually ride more to get better.


 
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