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I think we are getting into an extremely unlikely scenario. I am all for taking prudent precautions, but I think the chances of that being a significant risk are absolutely tiny. (not the dog jumping bit which the owner should stop in any case). Compare that with a runner going hard past you at 2.1m distance for example, which is apparently ok by most runners I see. I'll find other things to worry about when it comes to transmission.
From today's Daily Fail:
MAMIL madness: Cyclists ride close together through Regents Park in London and parks and beaches fill up around the country despite Boris Johnson and police begging Britain to stay indoors this weekend
Boris Johnson urged Britons to remain at home despite the promise of good weather and cheap fuel prices
Groups of people across the country ignored the pleas of officials to remain at home to stop the spread
Police approached groups of people in London and Brighton to warn them about the ongoing lockdown
Mr Johnson yesterday extended his self-isolation period yesterday after admitting he was still symptomatic
Just checked the Brighton beach webcam - about as empty as a rainy day in November
Just back from a ride in the eastern Peak, Totley Moor, Blacka Moor and over towards Ringinglow. Still an astonishing number of families and groups, clearly not on walks from home roaming the woods and countryside. Some sat down for a picnic at the top of Piper House Gate.
I counted eight cars in the bottom car park at Lady Cannings too. Granted, more likely to be dog walkers than bikers but shouldn’t have been there. Had a mountain biker pass me with his Gnar sled on the back of his Golf too just before Cannings (if that was you, don’t be a dick).
At least the local plod are leafleting car windscreens of cars parked up out in the Peak, spotted them on two cars on Stony Ridge Road.
Given today has been pleasant but nothing special, tomorrow may well be a free for all and could well be the end of the current measures if repeated across the parks and countryside of the U.K. We’re all doomed.
rydster
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Suddenly every **** has a dog during this covid-19 crisis. I’d happily have all dogs put down
Spoken like an absolute prick
Some sat down for a picnic at the top of Piper House Gate.
Mrs K jogged around our local park with our daughter on her bike. She came back to state anything you can sit on has been made inaccessible and wound with yellow police barrier type tape by the council.
That’s a great idea @Kryton57, might suggest that to the local councillors (might be in place by October based on past experience).
Rydster - I'd happily have all those who make half-witted statements put down. Thankfully I suspect neither of us will get what we want.
Rio
You should keep dogs 2m away from people; I’ve yet to find any dog walker capable of that even when they are on a lead but it would be nice if they at least tried.
That's straight out bullshit - are you a journo for the Daily Hate?
Is this kind of ride allowed?
Mrs K jogged around our local park with our daughter on her bike. She came back to state anything you can sit on has been made inaccessible and wound with yellow police barrier type tape by the council.
Thats just ****ing ignorant, what about those with mobility issues who need to sit down to recover?
It’s not an ignorant move at all. I’m sure you could spend ten minutes looking into why it is being done, before getting enraged, if you wanted to.
Suddenly every **** has a dog during this covid-19 crisis. I’d happily have all dogs put down
Spoken like an absolute prick
I always think people who don't like dogs are weird sociopaths, although I accept this says z lot about me too.
from my point of view as a person with secondary progressive MS it is ****ing ignorant to tape up seats etc, i need to sit down regularly and get of my throttle bafang ebike to relax my muscle spasms before i am fit enough to climb back on to continue, There are elderly/infirm or those with mobility difficulties who also need to sit down reguarly - if such measures are taken then you remove the ability for such people to get outside and exercise - if i don't get out at least a few times a day my leg muscles lock up to such an extent that i will need permanent care, thankfully i stay in a very rural area of galloway where such measures are not necessary in my town.
Thats just **** ignorant, what about those with mobility issues who need to sit down to recover?
Not sure they should be going out strolling under the circumstances.
If you ask me, the less people touching things the better. I'm a for it.
Not sure they should be going out strolling under the circumstances.
Jesus wept.
from my point of view as a person with secondary progressive MS it is **** ignorant to tape up seats etc, i need to sit down regularly and get of my throttle bafang ebike to relax my muscle spasms before i am fit enough to climb back on to continue
But you must see that person xyz who sat on it before you could potentially infect you and you die? Surely it makes more sense to plan things so that's not the case? Even if it means carrying your own fold out chair?
And I’ve felt guilty over wanting to go out after a day’s work after cycling the commute, haven’t so far as I’m being sensible but if people are going to take the piss then why should I behave?
Because you are responsible for your own actions, not other peoples. Just because other people are taking the piss it doesn’t make it acceptable, and it certainly isn’t the right thing to do. If it were acceptable it wouldn’t be taking the piss.
Missed the emoji, sorry. Actually stayed indoors all day on the turbo as it was rather busy with walkers and dogs according to a few of the locals! Hoping to get out early tomorrow for 45 mins or so.
Ever heard the phrase “use it or lose it”, it takes less than 3 days of inactivity in myself such as being laid up with a bladder infection (bloody catheters) to engender loss of muscle structure and mobility to such an extent that my muscles are too weak to support myself yet my muscle tone is in such a spasm that I cannot move my own limbs without the aid of someone else.
And as for carrying my own chair?, really?...is that your best advice rather than allow people to exercise caution when sitting down.
And as for carrying my own chair?, really?…is that your best advice rather than allow people to exercise caution when sitting down
You crack on then fella, I'm not saying any more, if you're happy then fill your boots.
Me, when I go out I touch nothing. Personal choice
Shorter loops from home that avoid using shared furniture will, sadly, be part of the answer. Park benches etc really do need avoiding. A lot of people will currently be adjusting to home and hyper local exercise for a while, and no one will be welcoming it.
People are going to need to decide their own risks soon, we can't be in lockdown for years/until vaccine is available which ever is sooner.
Just needs to be made clear to people that it is their own risk and they should continue to social distance, keep hygiene levels high etc,. As long as there is capacity in the new hospitals to manage those taking the risks as a lot of people will be getting it over the next year.
, i need to sit down regularly and get of my throttle bafang ebike to relax my muscle spasms before i am fit enough to climb back on to continue,
If it gets that bad just ignore the tape and sit down anyway.
Shooting Stick?
This thread is truly peak STW.
Very best wishes somafunk.
Respect somafunk for getting out and riding your bike despite and in spite of the challenges you face. Ignore those on here who're unable to look outside their own little (self-righteous) bubble, frankly I thought some would have known better.
Respect somafunk for getting out and riding your bike despite and in spite of the challenges you face. Ignore those on here who’re unable to look outside their own little (self-righteous) bubble, frankly I thought some would have known better.
It's nothing to do with self righteous, it's simply common sense. People are dying, by their hundreds, every day, through secondary contact contracted virus. A horrible death.
Let's say he sits down and takes the right precautions that he doesn't get infected, but it doesn't mean he doesn't then pass it over to bench number 2, which then infects the next old dear who comes along and then contracts it and dies. Is that right? We don't know yet the full effects of this virus but sitting on a public bench seems utter insanity.
I'd rather carry 2 bloody chairs myself then sit on a bench in a park.
I respect the guy for getting out, but think he request is bonkers
Not surprised the forums biggest attention seeker has revealed his true colours
@somafunk ignore the bellends and try to make the best of it like the most of us are
Not surprised the forums biggest attention seeker has revealed his true colours
Is that me? Seriously I bloody hope not.
@somafunk, my bad, seemed like a good idea but can equally understand how it can help in circumstances you describe. If you are satisfied with the risk, and let’s face it everything everyone is doing at the moment is making risk-based decisions, then it’s all good. It’s not for me but I am particularly risk averse.
What does grind is those that are blatantly ignoring the advice set out by national government, largely I suspect because they work on the principle that most people stick to it and hence if they do go out for a drive in the Peak and a picnic they’ll have the place to themselves and well, that’s great isn’t it because they’re looking out for number one.
Like I tried to outline a few posts up there ^ my initial concern regarding the taping up of seats etc was purely to highlight the fact that elderly/infirm/disabled need to exercise daily/in fresh air and whilst doing so they often need to rest/sit down. Thankfully my own situation (due to where I live in deserted Galloway)is so far removed from living in a built up area/town/city that the concerns about sitting down are practically negligible and our few seats are not taped up. I was out this morning for an hr, out this afternoon for an hr and just in from another 1/2 hr ride before tea/bed and I only met/saw one other person who I know well. Obviously I’m not licking public seats with my tongue and carry sanitiser/use it so I consider myself pretty safe but I realise if I get Coronavirus then I’m pretty much guaranteed to die with my existing health/immune system severely compromised along with a dnr order. Hey-ho.....managed to get to 48yrs old, I’ll try for 50 and celebrate if I get there 😉
Just needs to be made clear to people that it is their own risk
But it isn’t, for most of us. There is next to no risk to me personally form this virus. We are not staying at home to protect ourselves, well not many of us. We are mostly doing so to help protect others.
that elderly/infirm/disabled need to exercise daily/in fresh air and whilst doing so they often need to rest/sit down
My elderly neighbours, one with Alzheimer’s, have had to stop their long walks for just this reason. Short strolls only. Depressing, but better than sharing benches with who knows how many people. Daily visits to the newsagents are off for the same reason as well. To stop the spread, and, in their cases, stay safe.
Cotswold Police have tweeted that they've seen many cycling far from home. How they know this is a mystery as it what business it is of theirs.
https://twitter.com/CotswoldsPolice/status/1246522507546353664
where are they getting this 1hr from ? One of the BBC breakfast presenters may a similar reference on friday. Can seem to find any source for it ? I'm presuming it from one of the gobshite ministers briefings.
where are they getting this 1hr from ? One of the BBC breakfast presenters may a similar reference on friday. Can seem to find and source for it ?
I think it started with a now deleted tweet from Denton Police, who made it up. Which is why it was deleted.
It's Gove, he's creating his own little dictatorship. Today he said do not drive to the countryside, yet Hancock said local trips to the countryside to exercise are acceptable.
where are they getting this 1hr from ? One of the BBC breakfast presenters may a similar reference on friday. Can seem to find any source for it ? I’m presuming it from one of the gobshite ministers briefings.
That fishfaced bellend Michael Gove answered some random journo's question about exercise (this was outside of official press briefings, it was on the pavement) by coming up with an off the cuff answer about "depending on fitness" a run of 30 minutes, a walk of an hour or a ride of "half an hour to an hour" but depending on your fitness.
Since then it's been widely repeated as fact.
Soma.
Look after yourself mate and ignore the idiot.
Hopefully when all this is over we can come up to visit you.
Seen quite a few people slowly plod along not looking where they're going while exercising their fingers and thumbs. Could have stayed at home on the sofa next to a window for the same effect.
Yes, I've been getting grief on Faceache for riding for 90 minutes in contravention of Gove's dictat 🙄
Can we get some facts back to this thread please. Its not illegal to take a short drive to exercise, and police won't fine you if you're sensible about it. Don't go to honeypot locations.
It's not illegal to ride your bike for more than an hour, but again applying some sense is prudent.
It's also not illegal to exercise several times a day, at least not in England & Scotland.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-52106843
Listen to the advice from the Government but be aware most of it is just advice. If you have more than two brain cells consider what the government actually need us all to do (be isolated insofar as possible) and go about your business as safely as you can. Drive you dog to a deserted forest nearby, take long bike rides in the country, drive a mile to avoid all the pensioners when running, whatever, as long as you isolate. Your mental health and your family will thank you for being sensible, thoughtful, and prudent whilst exercising.
If you have two or less braincells, follow the letter of the advice.
Can all the #stayathome zealots please keep their fearful and shortsighted attitudes to themselves. The attacks on this thread are directly harmful to many peoples mental health, most of which are showing good sense and care, following the letter of law, if not every ministers whim.
As many have already alluded to on this thread, I am massively saddened by mandate this crisis has provided for xenophobic, fearful, attacking, attitudes. It really has provided a stage for the worst people in our country. Again.
MODS - Please can you actually moderate this thread!
Can we get some facts back to this thread please. Its not illegal to take a short drive to exercise, and police won’t fine you if you’re sensible about it.
Police handing out fines at a local beach here on Friday, folk parking their cars to walk dogs.
Edit- soma, all the best buddy, look after yourself.
rydster
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Suddenly every **** has a dog during this covid-19 crisis. I’d happily have all dogs put down
We were out there walking our dogs before this all happened. I’ve started walking my dog at night now because the countryside places I used to walk her are now chock full of people. Also means I can’t ride my bike as much as I’d like because my one exercise a day is taken up with dog walking.