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[Closed] Lets have a mass trespass...or something?

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.isn't IMBA the voice of the mountain biker with regard to access type issues?

[b]A[/b] voice perhaps, but how representative is open to question. I fell out with them when they trumpetted working together with a 4x4 group to vandalise (not their choice of word, obviously) the top of Fox Road in Grizedale, filling in the lovely puddle 🙁


 
Posted : 05/03/2009 4:18 pm
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The thing is, from my understanding of the law it's simply trespass

in the Peak National Park, there is a byelaw mandating a fine up to £500 for riding a footpath. When I innocently posted pics of us riding Stanage Edge, an STWer thoughtfully reported us to the park authority, but they declined to act despite clear prima face evidence. It subsequently transpired that the supposed FP may be wrongly classified...


 
Posted : 05/03/2009 4:22 pm
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in the Peak National Park, there is a byelaw mandating a fine up to £500 for riding a footpath.

I should have known somebody would point that out, should have known it would be you 😉 , and should have added "where there are no bylaws".

I suspect your photos would be insufficient proof. As with motoring offences they surely have to have some proof not only that you were there, but also of exactly when you were there.


 
Posted : 05/03/2009 4:34 pm
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Never been prosecuted, never been stopped. In fact the last time I encountered grumpy walkers, I was on a BW. TBH so few actually know the rules, they're more likely to assume you have a right to be there


 
Posted : 05/03/2009 4:36 pm
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I had to look the word up in the diknotary


 
Posted : 05/03/2009 4:39 pm
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The other point of course is that it's nothing to do with grumpy walkers unless they're the landowner or the landowner's agent. For all they know you could be riding on the FP with the landowner's permission - which I certainly have done (since you're allowed to bike race on FPs, some events I've done allow riding on them, but not on BWs!)


 
Posted : 05/03/2009 4:40 pm
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Genuine question - if the CTC are representing mtb'ers, how are they doing this? Particularly in relation to rights of way on "natural" trails, as opposed to creating trail centres.


 
Posted : 05/03/2009 4:40 pm
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Some info here. But I think the answer is "not very much" - they seem to be leaving most of the off-road stuff to IMBA.

http://www.ctc.org.uk/DesktopDefault.aspx?TabID=4562


 
Posted : 05/03/2009 4:48 pm
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some proof not only that you were there, but also of exactly when you were there.

all my photos are tagged with the time and date in the EXIF data...
and had they asked I would have admitted the fact


 
Posted : 05/03/2009 4:52 pm
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all my photos are tagged with the time and date in the EXIF data...

I doubt that is anywhere near sufficient standard of proof for a court given exactly what that proves.


 
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