[Closed] Land Rover.........Should I?

are you buying new?

Ok so they're awesome, however compared to your vivaro it will be a potential pain in the ar se. They're slow, juicy and extremely likely to be nicked. But for all that they're awesome.

yes!

Not going for new as they're best part of 30k and shopping around I can pick up a used 2011 low mileage for about 23k, as for being nicked, It'll have an immobiliser/alarm and me toting a machete sleeping light 😉

Hmm. Would you get a Td5 or a later Tdci which has a 6 speed gearbox? Td5 is a great engine, but it does suffer from quite short gearing making it hard work on motorways. Tdci also has a better interior.

Overall, they are awful, but great at the same time. Noisy, slow, heavy to drive in traffic, ridiculous gearing unless you are pulling 3.5 tonnes up mount Everest. But you will love it because it is so darned cool. Driving through town you will feel like the man. If that's important to you...

It will be the Tdci that I go for.
Being able to make things with my bare hands and owning a land rover, I can feel the chest hair growing already haha!

Had a wee shot in a 2 yr old 110 slightly modded..
I've always wanted a landy but I have to say I wasn't impressed, poor room in the front- almost slammed the door on myself! Very agricultural, more play in the steering than I would have thought was legal, and the off road tyres didn't like the tarmac very much!

That said, I loved it!!

I beg to differ about the new ones having a better interior. The dash is full of things not needed, all the nice storage space has gone and you can't open the front vents any more.
Nice engine though and that 6 speed box is great although I do think first runs away from you a bit.
However you'll get no joy here. They are not somehting you get neutral reactions about. I'd have my 7th anyday. (as well as still having my 6th)

It will cost a fortune to run
You will love it
Buy one, then when you're fed up with it, sell it and buy another van.

BTDTGTTS*

*Been there, done that, got the T-Shirt

i have a 25 year old no frills one

my mate has a TDCI.

I cant drive his without the window open ( 6ft 3 and a 44inch chest so hardly huge)

yet my old school one i am actually quite comfortable in !

but it is something youll have no issues selling , they hold their value worryingly well.

Get thee down the dealer and try one..
One day when I get my country pad...

do you do a lot of work in the middle of fields or on top of mountains?

No? Stick with a van

Don't be so boring mikewsmith. People are still allowed to use things for things they weren't specifically designed for.

Not Boreing just they are loud uncomforatble and a PITA to drive, drink fuel like it's free etc. Great practical thing but.....

thats your opinion.

28mpg calculated brim to brim i get from my 19j

they are loud - but my stereos louder

cant say they are a pain to drive really - i just take my time getting places.

depends on the fellas milage and financial circumstance- its not somewhere id want to sit to do 20k a year in 200mile blasts. but for me at the moment 50 mile trip is a long trip.

only issue i see is going from a vivaro to a 110 youll find your self looking for space- even a 110 despite being huge outside isnt all that big inside - the floors very high up , the wheel boxes take up a load of room. id like a roof rack for my 90 for bikes as i cant even get 2 in without wheels and saddles out (big 29ers)

28mpg

That is nothing to shout about... my Old transit did 32 which I consider bad, except for the fact it was a 3t van.

did i say at any point it was good - i was pointing out its not attrocious - my old 1.6 escort did less ..... therefore i find it acceptable - tbh if i could find a non gassed non astronomic 3.5efi engine ill fit that just because i like v8 sound, the power would be nice and do few enough miles to live with it.

10mpg here we come !

mpg of the TDCI is meant to be attrocious though but i suspect thats because folks are treating them like cars and doing 70/80 on the Mway when you need to remember its still a brick shaped object. I rarely do above 55 in mine.

I love my Defender 90 (TD5) - it makes me smile every time I get in it, and never fails to burst in to life with the turn of the key! Sadly, family pressures mean it's up for sale, but I'd have no hesitation in buying another one in the future...

I think they look great too

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You're positive a 110 has enough room, yes? They really are surprisingly small on the inside. Compared with a proper van they have miniscule load spaces, even LWB models. Lots of drive train and long wheel travel means high floors and big wheel arch intrusions.

That aside, I'd be tempted to advise you against it for the theft reason alone - it WILL be the target of theft, either attempted or (more likely) successful. Gangs of people specifically target these and few are recovered. And they can be opened with just about anything that fits in the door locks (soggy lolly sticks included), so useless for storing tools/kit in.

They're great fun as toys - I've had two and I love them to bits, but as a practical vehicle they're hardly sensible unless you really need the upper limits of its abilities - ie heavy towing or the off road ability.

Slow
Cramped
Very costly to run

And I love mine 110 hardtop
But very little space in the back , I so want a 130 but they fetch silly money

Brightwells 4x4 auctions show the demand for pre-TdCi (& 130s); heard too many bad stories about the current model.

get a disco van instead - miles better in many ways, space, comfort and heavier so better off road in the mud and snow.

I commute daily in this beauty

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Get a 200tdi if you can about 25% better on fuel than a 300TDI, my 200tdi is on 195K and is running like a swiss watch..

No. Go Japanese.

get a hilux.

get a disco van instead - miles better in many ways, space, comfort and heavier so better off road in the mud and snow.

Heavier = better off road? That's a new one!

And don't get a disco unless you're handy with a welder.

Get a 200tdi if you can about 25% better on fuel than a 300TDI

There may be a slight difference in consumption between the 200 & 300, but there's no way in hell it's 25%

A heavy vehicle with narrow tyres will dig down in mud and snow to find grip, whereas something light will just slide around, so I reckon he's right. Mrs Gti's Citroen C1 diesel is excellent in snow thanks to front drive, narrow tyres and front engine but with winter tyres on it's amazing.

We had a 1986 ex-RAF 90, which was brilliant fun but a money pit so don't go buying anything that's approaching what the MOD calls B.E.R. or Beyond Economic Repair.

only works if there is something solid to get to.

Ive seen stock looking SJs and Jimnys make a mockery of heavily modified landys with capible drivers on soft ground , on loose rocks and deep snow.

some might even say the SJ was less than stock with its monsterously wide and slick looking tires , lack of wings , rear boot lid , door that shuts with a bunji cord and a bike exhaust coming out the wing right next to the manifold.

It goes without saying that off road driving is all about throttle skill, route and momentum.

Best advert I ever saw for narrow tyres was on a pay & drive day when the tricked up Landies with big fat tyres were building up bow-waves of mud in front of the tyres and getting bogged while the old Series Landies were just plodding through.

oh yes but i wouldnt call the guys that were driving the tomcat trialers inexperianced - some ex club champions involved in driving them 😉

kenneththecurtain knows exactly what and who im on about.

I had a 90 about 15 years ago and it was the best and worst vehicle I've ever owned. Go any where, do anything, cost a forune to fuel and became another "hobby" it its own right. Stick with the Vivaro and don't trade that for a VW, or that will just become another hobby / money pit....Like mine.
In some ways, having a vehicle which doesn't really light your candle, make things simpler and less expensive.

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the SJ in question 😀

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nice shot of a big heavy disco failing to go where a red stock jimny on BFG all terrains went not long before.

Sorry to say it but that's good advice. Modern vans are cheaper to run, more efficient, harder to steal, easier to live with and more spacious than a 110.

A little Suzuki has a much shorter wheelbase than a Disco so it's bound to cope better with a steep bank like that in the pic above.

Go for it.

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"A little Suzuki has a much shorter wheelbase than a Disco so it's bound to cope better with a steep bank like that in the pic above. "

oh yes - and if the side steps were removed etc etc

but thats not what im basing my opinion on thats just a photo i happened to take and found funny 😀 - also have one of a jeep wrangler getting air off the same bank 😀

A heavy vehicle with narrow tyres will dig down in mud and snow to find grip, whereas something light will just slide around, so I reckon he's right.

At the risk of continuing OT, this is only true if you're talking about an inch or two of mud/snow. Once you're axle deep (or on any remotely gnarly terrain) the heavy stuff will get bogged down, the light stuff won't.

This is all fairly irrelevant though, sounds like the OP has enough cash to jizz on landy porn that he won't be considering a 15 year old disco!

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Maybe just go for a proper off roader

T5 4motion ftw... ?