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I didn't realise there were so many fans on here!!
I love mine. Wouldn't be without it.
Mornin all..
Im borrowing the 90 next week to see how i get along with it and as soon as i mentioned it at work a guy with a 300Tdi Disco mentioned he might be selling that and also may take my Volvo off me. The Disco is very good condition, 3 door with no sunroof which appeals to avoid some of the corrosion issues. Borrowing both to see how i get on.
London? Are you mad? Having lived there for a year nothing boils my piss more than that place... although i am going down on Friday for a christening for the first time in 9 years. Has it got any better?? 😉
Ive always thought 90's were too short and 110 too long - they should have made a 100 lol
rechassis a defender and you can get a 100" with an Ibex:
Mmmmmm looking at the Ibex that's the sort of vehicle I dream of but won't afford!
Used to have Series II on the 88 chassis back in the 80's - I had to sell it when work took me abroad. Annoyingly someone a couple of miles away bought it and put it on the Range Rover chassis (if I'd had the money I'd have done that!) and put a V8 in it. I still see it occasionally.
I still hanker for one but can't justify it.
DaRC_L
Thats what I intend to do. The Series 11 is, in my eyes, one of the most beautiful looking cars ever made!!
oh and everyone knows girls can't drive defenders
Only those who haven't met my friend Em.
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The only advice I ever give to people wanting Defenders - and I speak from experience as a Land Rover nut - is that they go missing. I don't know of another type of car that you can be so sure will get stolen. They're the best car in the world, by far and away. The criminals know that too.
In fact I must go and check on mine, wonder if it's still there.
Oh and I always managed to get the XC susser in the back of my 90 (with bulkhead and dog guard) with both wheels on. There's just a knack you have to learn 🙂
"Im borrowing the 90 next week to see how i get along with it and as soon as i mentioned it at work a guy with a 300Tdi Disco mentioned he might be selling that and also may take my Volvo off me. The Disco is very good condition, 3 door with no sunroof which appeals to avoid some of the corrosion issues. Borrowing both to see how i get on."
Pull the boot carpet up and poke around with a screwdriver-marvel at how a big hole appears, check the inner wings, inside of the lower sills, lower boot lip 'crossmember' unless its a Jap import, or been waxoyled from new-it'll be rusting somewhere.
Cheers for the input from the experts/enthusiasts - keep it coming.
As said, there's much more space available in a 110 - handy for weekends away. The 90 is better for being more manoeuvrable and is better off road.
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Heres mine!
My GF wants a Disco, I'm after a 90. I don't really think I stand much chance TBH.
Maybe a Disco is more 'sensible' anyway.
Lol, that first pic is going to go down well on here Joe.
This is mine:
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I apologise - I can't for the life of me work out how to get in on here. Right clickign it to find the URL for it only gives me the above, which doesnt seem to work when encased with the "IMG" button?
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Success!!
One of the reasons I love my Lanny is because..........
....my wife can fix it?
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er nope, its because it has plenty of room for stuff like this....
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that after 20 minutes at 60mph to the next services.......
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becomes a little tasty snack.......
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(chicken breast wrapped in parma ham cooked with a little garlic butter!)
We've perfected bacon butty's , garlic prawns, we did some potatoe daphinoise (but over cooked it), sausages, braising steak and loads of other things on the way to places, nothing funnier than turning up at a campsite, opening the bonnet with fellow campers tutting at the unreliable broken down Lanny only to remove your cooked food from the engine bay and crack an ice cold beer open from the on board freezer.
Said it before and I will say it again
Mitsubishi Delica L400
Drives like a car, has more toys than most ars and goes offroad as well or better than a defender.....fact as I have towed a defender out of mud.
Seats are all movable, collapsibe, turn to beds, and i have had 4 bikes fit in upright with wheels on.
cheap to buy and same economy as a landy.
Only downside is that most are autos and the looks are not to everyone's taste...
Oh!! The only thing i like about the defender is the looks, it does indeed look like a proper offroader, but if you do very little offroad I think its the wrong car for you
Oh!! The only thing i like about the defender is the looks, it does indeed look like a proper offroader, but if you do very little offroad I think its the wrong car for you
It is THE offroader.
Another point for Landrovers is that they simple mechanical things that last a long time even if you never go offroad in them. Yes they may have oil leaks and the odd reliability problem-thats because at the age those issues appear 'normal' cars are in the scrappers. You buy a Lanny and you have it for life. Mines 20 year old, it'll still be with me in another 20 years. The Sooty Van L400 that once pulled me out of the mud from 20 foot away with a towrope will be long gone.
Why not buy a car, and if you feel the overwhelming desire to go off-road then use your mountain bike. That way you cause about 0.1% of the erosion you would in a Land Rover.
The Sooty Van L400 that once pulled me out of the mud from 20 foot away with a towrope will be long gone.
but landys are a bit like triggers broom...new/rebuilt engine here, new gear box new diffs there etc... 🙂
Imprerssive culinary skills there!! Must try that!
rnp i used to love doing that when in the army 😉
commercial discovery will fit the bikes with the wheels on and is far more comfortable than a 90.
I've had all sorts of Landys from Series One's to 101's to Defenders to Coil sprung trials motors.
Last Defender I had was a TD5 110 CSW (after my previous 90 was stolen), which was good for bike duties. Much better than a 90.
Currently building an 80" Series 1 but with S3 running gear, 90 engine but will look like a '48 from the outside.
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dickydutch I'm v jealous - you'll have a great car by the end 😉
Mitsubishi Delica L400...goes offroad as well or better than a defender.....fact as I have towed a defender out of mud.
Literal lol. That's that then, fact.
Made me chuckle too 😆
DaRC_L - Was that meant for me?
EDIT - just realised it was in reply to my statement about rebuilding a Series 11. I think anyway.
Yep thats that...fact,
Went to an offroad cenre near my home in Wales, lots of landy's and the person told me that the course is for offroaders and not MPV's que lots of pointing and laughing from the others and then lots of smiling wiped off their faces (even pajerodrivers)when they could see what it can do.
But second what andyha said, maybe a commercail discovery would be better
Ive never seen one off road, although admittedly, I have heard good things! nto convinced they'd out do a defender mind......
fact as I have towed a defender out of mud
Excellent off roader in 'I'm being driven by a nobber who can't drive' shocker
Surely you're joking!?
Ive had two defenders (both 300tdi 90s) in the last 8 years, usual problems like p gaskets, fuel lift pump, injectors, leaks for the top door seals that always land on yer lap, noisy not too comfy etc etc. Parts generally cheap and easy to fit.
Tried a normal car a few years back and got bored within a few months, sold it and went back to the Landy. I use mine everyday and it's great, really came into its own in the last month and a half of bad weather.
Cos mines a CSW with the rear fold up seats it's not great for carrying bikes, get mine in without the front wheel no probs but thats about it.
Landys are either in yer blood or not.
Yep thats that...fact
In a moment of absent mindedness got my 90 cross axled a while back, so my mate jumped out of the passenger seat and shoved me off. So by that reckoning a human man is a better light-duty high-mobility utility vehicle than a Defender 🙂
I like, no, love Delis, by the way. Nearly bought one as a tow barge. If Mitsubishi would import the D:5 into the UK I'd be down the showroom in an instant, check book in hand. I think it would quickly become one of STW's favourite bike wagons too.
But I must say in my years of competitive offroading, I'm happy that I never swapped my Landies for one - They just don't have the angles and articulation for it 🙂
In fact the only thing that ever got close to tempting me away from the Green Oval was a rather lovely Pinzgauer for sale near me. I came > < that close...
For all the people who gave useful words of wisdom, i ended up getting a P reg 1997 Disco 300 TDi Auto ES with FSH in very good condition from the father of a guy i work with. Early signs are good, full leather means wipe clean and dog hair free and the bike wheels in complete with the rear seat split down. Plus the dog attaches to the rear 7th seat seatbelt with a carabiner to keep him put from getting on the dash so no need for dog guard. Happy days
Thanks for all advice and info.
I've been tempted by a Landy for a long time, but was put off by the cost/noise etc... Have had a Subaru Forester for the past 2 years and it's great. 2 bikes in the back with wheels on with the seats down. Cruise at any speed - I sat at 115 down the autobahn for an hour in torrential rain with the car fully loaded. Have slept in the back at dusk2dawn as well. Will buy another when this one dies, although that may be some time. (140K miles on the clock and just passed the MOT, only needed a silencer box).
Permanent all wheel drive and same ground clearance as a freelander.
30MPG and ripe for LPG conversion.
Drives like a car, powerslides beautifully on icy roundabouts.
Is quiet and comfortable at speed.
Landy 90TDi here. Can get 2 x MTB's in the back or when the rack's on about 6 on the roof and 6 bods inside! It is cozy though!
The best bit is being able to get changed 'indoors' and being able to do a bacon sarnie or coffee in the back too. Top motors for MTB work. It also doesn't matter how dirty yours biuke is after a ride.
To be fair it's not great on motorways, but that is not what mine is for.
Exactly what Scootash says. Mine flew through its MOT this week 😀
I dont want to offend anyone- after all, its a car not you/your family etc. Unless you do alot of offroad work/live on a farm- why do you need a Defender?
Again, dont get offended- Im bitching about a car not a person. I bawk at the cost of Defenders, leggy mileage and Rover technology for the price.
I dont need mine at all. But I wanted one. And I love it. Much like we dont NEED 2 or 3 bikes, or 27 gears, or titanium frames etc. Its all personal preference!
No offence taken by the way!! 😛
mccett - Sounds brilliant! Any pics yet???
and none-meant 🙂No offence taken by the way!!
I had a 90 TD5 station wagon, and loved it. Every one's said what needs to be said about owning a defender - you either want one or you dont!
But, I found the 90 a bit too small, so chopped it in for a 110 Puma Utility. The extra space is great - can take four bikes and four people, two bikes and two people with loads of spare room, and any variation in between. The hardtop rear portion gives you a brilliant room for changing and sheltering, and a sleeping space if needed.
Parking is a bit of an art, and the turning circle is more like a planetary orbit, but the drive is so much fun overall that it's worth the cost and hassle.
If it's an option, I'd go for a 110 over a 90, but you wont regret a 90 either. Do it! Join the fold, and dont forget to wave and be waved at!
No 90 for me.
Looking for a late series 2a / early series 3. No VED, all the fun.
Hehehe
being as the thread's been resurrected, it stick a piccy of my 110 on, it's a 2.2tdi 94 M'reg.
Bikes go in easily, especially compared to the Fiat Panda daily driver 😀
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As a landrover nut with years of hassle behind me, don't do it if its your only car. If its your weekend plaything with the bikes then go for it! Sold my scudo JTD van and bought a car, boy do I miss the van for bike duties. The car will have to go, cant be bothered with racks and all that crap!