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I'll tell you what though, the schtick'll really hit the fan if he wins! 😆 😆 😆
If I was competing in an event and they let him in, I'd walk out.
And I suspect you'd be far from the only one, which the organisers will want to weigh up when deciding.
Is anyone close enough to the organisers to have a feel for whether this is likely to be for real, or a hoax designed (successfully) to generate some publicity for the event?
I think that people are confusing reconciliation/ rehabilitation with a well choreographed and organised public exhibition of hand-wringing carefully calibrated to manoevre him back into competetive sport .I don't see any genuine remorse or regret, apart from getting caught out -there is rumoured to be a film in the making " cycle of lies " so he is actively profiteering from his wrong-doing .put the one-bollocked bastard in court and make him pay compensation to the cancer charity he has shat on.
He'll need a thick skin if he turns up at this one, as he may get a bit of a flea in his ear from some participants. The reputation of us Scots for not suffering fools gladly must surely have made its way into his PR team's mind, so he'll know what to expect.
Personally, I think it would be a good thing for both him and the event, it would be good to see one or two of our best riders take him on fair and square. Maybe we'll get lucky and the combination of weather and terrain may kick his butt.
He has to start his return to 'sport' in some form of rehab; like for most of us, riding is a way of life for this man. He may prove to be the perfect gentleman and do positive things from now on; after all, this man has also put a lot back into the sport over the years, think of those 'ride with Lance' events that he has done here in the past. The man is not all bad.
"charity he has shat on"
What?
explain? how has he shat on Livestrong?
he started it, raised millons, there is debate on how the money has been spent-ok. Now he has stood down.
i don't think livestrong is about to fold because he has been found out.
ormondroyd - Member
If I was competing in an event and they let him in, I'd walk out.
Why walk when you could ride out on your high horse?
BoardinBob - Member
ormondroyd - Member
If I was competing in an event and they let him in, I'd walk out.
Why walk when you could ride out on your high horse?
Bit pointless taking your bike if your going to walk.
I might go along just on the off chance of meeting him, I would visit a few charity shops on the way up to pick up a stock of his books for him to sign. 😆
I think some people are so needing revenge that they are no better than the cheating LA tbh - remember his atacks on those who spoke aout about him and how OTT they were
He may "deserve" it more but its still OTT.
he cheated and lied,. hardly the first fraudster we will ever encounter now is he.
I wonder how people from on here would react if iDave turned up?
I wonder how people from on here would react if iDave turned up?
They may loose their appetites!
glasgowdan - MemberLetting him compete would make a mockery of the event and detract the attention from those genuine people who have entered and want to race.
It's a No Fuss event, 4/5ths of the entrants don't want to race.
I'd say yes feel free to come and ride.The people charged with dishing out punishment for his violations have done that and by their ruling he's free to ride this event. The man should be punished to the extent of the rules of his sport and the law of the land beyond that he should be free to live his life like anyone else, and that includes riding his bike.
^^ Agreed.
He's lost titles, lost sponsorship income, faced global humiliation and faces a lifetime ban from elite level sport. That in my book is more than enough punishment.
I think there is something very unhealthy about people (who haven't lost out in races to him or whatever) seeming to take delight in watching a man's life in tatters.
I think there is something very unhealthy about people (who haven't lost out in races to him or whatever) seeming to take delight in watching a man's life in tatters.
It's called jumping on the bandwagon
He has acted like a knob over the years - but frankly the same can be said for half the guys i ride with (some of whom are not only knobs but are also known to cheat on strava - something which directly impacts on me whereas cheating to win the Tour de France doesn't 😀 ) and i still put up with them because the positives of riding a bike with those i do enjoy the company of outweigh the negatives of having to put up with some guys that I dont.
Would people really pull out of this event if Armstrong was to enter? If you dont like the guy fair enough but it would be a bit crazy if you would let something like that spoil your enjoyment. If nothing else surely it will be a good story to tell.
It's called jumping on the bandwagon
LA is used to that as he does live in Cowboy Country and has probably circled his wagons by now with all the hostile natives.
He has acted like a knob over the years - but frankly the same can be said for half the guys i ride with (some of whom are not only knobs but are also known to cheat on strava - something which directly impacts on me whereas cheating to win the Tour de France doesn't ) and i still put up with them because the positives of riding a bike with those i do enjoy the company of outweigh the negatives of having to put up with some guys that I dont.Would people really pull out of this event if Armstrong was to enter? If you dont like the guy fair enough but it would be a bit crazy if you would let something like that spoil your enjoyment. If nothing else surely it will be a good story to tell.
Agreed.
I still believe, let Lance ride! Hora you know you still love him really.
I think some people are so needing revenge that they are no better than the cheating LA tbh - remember his atacks on those who spoke aout about him and how OTT they were
So suggesting LA shouldn't be allowed to ride TdBN is directly equivalent to calling Emma O'Reilly a whore? I'm also not sure why suggesting the ban should extend to all athletic competitions is seeking revenge.
Ok then how about the fact that cycling may be excluded from the next Olympics as it can no longer be guarenteed to be clean, whether this is fair or not [ and he is clearly not the only one] ,what rehabilitaion has he done to make good the irreperable harm he has caused the reputation of cycling
I've ridden "against" Carlos Sastre in a Gran Fondo 2 years ago, now the guys retired, but jeeze even for a bloke that rode "for fun" in the demise of Fuji, holy cow he was fit as..
I suspect Lance is stil waaaaaayyyyy fitter than most/if not all on this forumz. He'd probably tow you in his wake.
Ok then how about the fact that cycling may be excluded from the next Olympics as it can no longer be guarenteed to be clean
It wont be.
Take some EPO , have a blood transfusion and have a little s**** to yourself on the start line!!!!
[quote=mr potatohead ]Ok then how about the fact that cycling may be excluded from the next Olympics as it can no longer be guarenteed to be clean
Mark Cavendish said "[url= http://sports.opera.com/?sport=news&page=news&view=article&news_id=220661&localization_id=www ]We don't assume every current BBC presenter is a sexual deviant because of what Jimmy Savile and his cronies were doing in the 1970s, so why are we carrying the can for Lance and his inner circle?[/url]"
And the IOC have [url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/21048927 ]played down rumours that cycling may be banned[/url]
So suggesting LA shouldn't be allowed to ride TdBN is directly equivalent to calling Emma O'Reilly a whore?
Of course not but that does not mean no response is OTT and two wrongs dont make a right
As I said I believe in rehabitiation [ as an aside she has forgiven him] and some dont. He clearly merits some punishment and IMHO a harsh one as well. As I said i would go harsh and incentivise him to talk by reducing the length.
I'm also not sure why suggesting the ban should extend to all athletic competitions is seeking revenge[
Genuine question - has anyone else had a lifetime ban from all sports?
It just seems harsh to me.
I would love to know (if its true) what Lance said in his email assuming it is the Lance Armstrong or not some other random bloke called Lance.
Whats Lance doing is he sat at home underneath his meaningless yellow jersey's trawling the internet for events he could enter.
Millar has served his ban is rehabilitated and is now allowed to compete in all sports. Why does everybody have to keep bringing him up as a strawman whenever Lance is mentioned?
because he too robbed clean riders of careers and hope. He also made more money from his book on doping than many a clean rider has done in their entire career
explain? how has he shat on Livestrong?he started it, raised millons, there is debate on how the money has been spent-ok. Now he has stood down
the point is how livestrong spends the money, it essentially appears to be spending most of the money paying Lance for his support. It would be interesting to see if money going to livestrong has reduced the income for real research based charities
He's lost titles, lost sponsorship income, faced global humiliation and faces a lifetime ban from elite level sport. That in my book is more than enough punishment.
he's still got a personal wealth well in excess of those he destroyed on the way up or when protecting the lie. He should be doing jail time for perjury and fraud
I think there is something very unhealthy about people (who haven't lost out in races to him or whatever) seeming to take delight in watching a man's life in tatters.
there's no delight just a need to recognise the full impact of what he did to so many people and the sad knowledge that despite everything he can still walk back in and claim TV time, column inches and web pages that should be devoted to clean cyclists
Sorry LA should do jailtime. Nothing less. He hasn't suffered. He lived a carefully crafted deceiptful lie.
big_n_daft - Memberthe point is how livestrong spends the money, it essentially appears to be spending most of the money paying Lance for his support.
Numbers? This gets repeated a lot but I've not seen anything to support it which makes me suspicious.
Numbers? This gets repeated a lot but I've not seen anything to support it which makes me suspicious.
If you want to know more about Livestrong, read this:
[url= http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/athletes/lance-armstrong/Its-Not-About-the-Lab-Rats.html ]Some stuff about Livestrong[/url]
i suppose he'd be welcome on the annual Manchester to Blackpool ride too 😆
edlong- that's one I've read before, and it contradicts what big_n_daft was saying.
Would he survive the experience?
Firstly I don't believe it for a second that he would have any intention of entering
But if he did, is it really such a big deal, hes not banned from such an event is he? And for those on their moral high horse about it all, perhaps you should have a criminal record check done on everyone who enters the field, because I'm pretty sure you will have ridden in events that have contained participants convicted of far worse crimes than he has.
lets not forget, hes not a child molestor (that we know of), never killed anyone, sure hes screwed over people and hes a cheat and a nasty piece of work, but hes not exactly the antichrist. Ban him form top level sport by all means, don't get your knickers in a twist about a fun event that I reckon many people would like to see him at, if only to say 'I was there, I rode with Lance'
Besides, I'm needing one more for my ten under the ben team....
Frazer n' spook are pretty canny when it comes to publicity and spreading the word, move along now....nothing to see here.... that is all.
If some of the high horse cowboys on here think Lance is a bad 'un, they should see some of the evil, lying, thieving, fraudulent and generally criminal creatures that I have to deal with on a regular basis. Wake up- much worse happens every day, just beyond your doorstep.
I struggle with long sentences but I've ridden the TdBN after a night on Cairngorm Trade Winds and Autumn Nuts. It hurt but I got through it. Any samples taken that day would have had lethal fumes. 🙂 If mr armstrong wants to match me pint for pint the night before I reckon he should be allowed. See how he copes on the hike a bike blowing out his arse and being able to see his heartbeat in his peripheral vision. 🙂
Lance and Hora, what happened to them.