[Closed] Ks lev integra

Hi

I've got a new ks lev stealth in 31.6. Can't remember if it's 125 drop but will check.

I swopped it for a Thompson on a new bike (Thompson now has play)

Anyway, it's been sat on a shelf for a few months and it's about to go on the for sale forum.

Email me if you are interested.

Cheers

Have emailed you

ks Lev is no better than a Reverb, plus the Reverb failure rate is pretty damn low.

I've got both, and the Reverb is actually better in action, if they came in 150mm drop 30.9 still, then I'd have one over the Lev.

Rickon, I'm talking from my own experience with reverbs I have had at least 4 returned over the last 3 years. All with problems. All replaced mind! I'm not saying I wouldn't own another but fancied a change. I read good things about lev integras. I'm impressed with the eten I have now, just not the post head remote lever which stops working after a sniff of muck!

Are they really that much better?

I'll reply to your original question a bit more succinctly then.

No, theyre not.

Reverbs are plagued with issues. LEV's are way betterer.

My Lev has just gone back to have the cartridge sorted under warranty. 9 months old.

question a bit more succinctly then.
No, theyre not.

But you havnt exactly replied in more detail with your original post, which was somewhat succinct ! Why are they better? Other than in operation? I have had so many issues with reverbs now, I thought I would try something else. Given you have both what's your real world issues you have had with the lev?

No issues with the Lev at all. The function of the Lev isn't quite as smooth, the return isn't as quick or easily adjustable, there's the same amount of play as in my reverbs, but it came on much sooner.

I actually prefer the cable to the hydraulic feel.

There's really not much in it at all.

I've had other KS droppers before and the Lev Integra is the best of them.

I'd still reiterate, I'd only buy the Lev again if I needed the 150mm drop that I couldn't get from the reverb. It's a perfect good dropper, just a little bit less good as the reverb, and a lot more expensive.

Reverbs are plagued with issues

Bullshit. There's a less than 1% failure rate on current Reverbs.

'Plauged' would be something like the Kronolog which pretty much fails for everyone.

. There's a less than 1% failure rate on current Reverbs.

Really? I think everyone I know who races with one has had to have one warrantied
I still think they are probably the best out there, my ks also had a warranty fix after a few months

rickon - Member

Reverbs are plagued with issues

Bullshit. There's a less than 1% failure rate on current Reverbs.

'Plauged' would be something like the Kronolog which pretty much fails for everyone.

Bullshit.

Where did you get the 1% failure rate figure for reverbs from? I'll bet even Rockshox wouldn't claim that.

At the shop I work at, we pretty much expect EVERY reverb to need a rebuild within a year. My KS Lev on the other hand is still working after two North Van years, with only a simple cable replacement. Considering they are remarkably similar inside, I'd put that down to better quality control at KS.

Kronologs and Joplins were gash though, as were/are most Crank Bros products. It's a cliche, but it's true.

From a shop's perspective,Integra Levs are far more reliable (putting aside the reworking of the original cable operating system, now no longer used), we've probably sold a least a hundred on bikes, and had one returned as faulty. Compare that to Reverbs returned, and i've literally lost count of how many we've had back, but i'd put money on it being far greater than 1%.

I've never had a Reverb fail on me, I cant say the same about my Lev, that's had to be rebuilt 3 times now, on every occasion it's needed a new cartridge

Is that all within its warranty period? Mine's just burst and gone back to Stir after 9 months of working flawlessly. If you did it through Jungle what's the turnaround like?

The first time was within it's warranty period the others haven't been, the reason I've stuck with it is because it pretty cheap to repair, a new cartridge is only about £45

If you put aside failure rate because that argument seems to divide opinion, then think about what else you want from a dropper. For me it was getting rid of that stupid Reverb remote and fitting a southpaw lever. Also having cable instead of hydraulic action for obvious reasons.

I had a Reverb. It worked faultlessly but i broke 2 levers which were pricey to replace. So far my Lev is still working well a year in and i much prefer the southpaw lever.

The Southpaw is a great bit of kit, so simple yet so effective, it's by far the best remote lever.

Thanks. Have you seen the DIY cartridge rebuild thread on mtbr? Not sure it's with the hassle if a new one is £45, but interesting that it can be done at home.

Yeah, I've seen that, but KS wont supply individual parts within the cartridge, it's the cartridge or nothing! When I spoke to Jungle they said that when ever they have any cartridge issues they don't bother stripping it down they just replace the cartridge

Probably easier. I can forsee taking out my garage window or something. Is the £45 for Jungle to fix it, or do yourself?

That was for them to send me the cartridge and for me to change it myself. Lev's are really easy to work on, you can strip and rebuild them in about 20 minutes once you know what your doing.

bullshit.
Where did you get the 1% failure rate figure for reverbs from? I'll bet even Rockshox wouldn't claim that.

I wouldn't claim something without a source.

http://enduro-mtb.com/en/why-so-few-of-you-have-faith-in-our-rockshox-reverb-long-term-test/

You lost the bet, and I claim my £10.

euan - yes, stripped mine down for a clean before, and apart from the bushing falling apart it was very easy.

Strange that, because everyone I know with a Reverb has had problems too

damascus - has russyh bought that Lev Integra from you? If not please drop a post here.

Jamj, I am trying to buy the post off of Damascus. Will let you know if we don't conclude a deal. It is a 150mm travel one

Strange that, because everyone I know with a Reverb has had problems too

What percentage of all the people who own reverbs do you know? I'd assume it's less than 1%.

Also, would you remember someone you know who has a Reverb, who hasn't told you that they haven't had a problem with it? I know I wouldn't.

The only time I'd tell anyone about something I've got is if it fails or starts spewing chuffing rainbows and unicorns.

Based on that, you could draw the conclusion that you agree with my statement.

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Jamj, I am trying to buy the post off of Damascus. Will let you know if we don't conclude a deal. It is a 150mm travel one

That's cool.

Nah. Still don't believe Ricon, Im sure I don't know 100 mtbers, yet way more than 1 of them has had a reverb fail, infact way nearer to 99 % than 1%

Multiplied by everyone else on stws anecdotal adventures, gives me a 50% failure rate being generous

Means the rainbows are in fact coming out of your (and srams pr dept's) unicorn's arse

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Still don't believe Ricon, Im sure I don't know 100 mtbers, yet way more than 1 of them has had a reverb fail, infact way nearer to 99 % than 1%

It's a good thing you're not a data analyst then 😉

You know less than 100 mtb'ers, but feel better able to identify the failure rate of a product sold in the hundreds of thousands than the producer of said product.

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^ You and me Kimbers. You've got the hat.