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[Closed] Kona Cinder Cone - Retro or Modern?

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My brother has owned from new a 1998? Kileaua (mustard yellow colour frame).

thats what this started out as, got it powdercoated pink, had ss ends welded on the end, skinny silver rigid forks, magura hydraulic rim brakes, i loved that bike. twangy, light and went like stink! cant even remember selling it now, but i wish i hadnt.

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Posted : 28/04/2017 7:48 am
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Personally I'd suggest going fully rigid and single speed on such a machine so that you can really savour its qualities.

^ I second this approach, even if my body doesn't/didn't 8)

Single (or dingle) speed butted-cromo-rockets are fun, like BMX/MTB crossover for should've-grown-ups. And never underestimate the power and feel of some well set-up V brakes. Deore are all you need in that department. Magura HS like wot sadexpunk had there are even better.

Middleburn cranks? Suits me sir. I see another interminable MLC/retrovision purchase on the horizon. Must. Stop. Must. See. Sense.

Because of this discussion I just checked my 2016 Vagabond (M) geometry against an old steel Kona ('97, 18"), and they really aren't that far off. Head-angles are the same, wheelbase is a cm longer on Vagabond.


 
Posted : 28/04/2017 8:06 am
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Anyone ridden an old Kona 69er style?

I had a '95 Explosif that I used like that for a year or two - singlespeed with Trickstuff Exzentriker BB, Salsa Cromoto forks and Magura Marta brakes.
I did originally use it with a 26" wheel and rigid forks but prefered it with the 29" front wheel, although back then I couldn't find forks with any more than 38mm offset. Now, of course, I'd use a Singular Hummingbird/Gryphon fork....

http://www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=46458&start=0


 
Posted : 28/04/2017 8:33 am
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Oooooooo... are we posting pictures of our old Cinder Cones. My old one isn't a 'proper' one as its not steel. Great bike though. And still alive in single speed mode with another forum member...

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Posted : 28/04/2017 8:33 am
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Just started restoring a 98 Scott Tampico. Think it's when Scott first started using aluminium frames?

could do with some better, or rigid forks to replace the Rockshox Indy S 🙂


 
Posted : 28/04/2017 8:37 am
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Sorry andy I edited my post re 69er after the event. Useful info, thanks. That blue Explosif of yours looks the shniz. I hankered after a Haro Mary SS for a good while and now wonder now how much of it was down to the fetching blue colour :mrgreen:

(Wishes old Konas were 29ers)

So what would be the nearest modern 29er equivalent of the classic 90s steel Cinder Cone/Lava Dome frameset? The Unit?


 
Posted : 28/04/2017 8:41 am
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Somewhere there are photos of it with the 29" front wheel but I haven't found them yet. I stopped using it once I got my first Singular Hummingbird though. It was light, lighter than the 'bird but didn't handle as well.


 
Posted : 28/04/2017 8:51 am
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In a little over 2 hours I shall be riding my 93 Hahana back from the station to home - in a suit.
Rigid with 2.3 Big Apples, and a pannier rack, looks terrible, rides brilliantly - perfect leave it in town bike.
£50 off that there Ebay.

So what would be the nearest modern 29er equivalent of the classic 90s steel Cinder Cone/Lava Dome frameset?

Singular Swift?


 
Posted : 28/04/2017 8:51 am
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While we're on to old 90's steel things. My old 99 Reynolds 525 GT Timberline, set up for commuting duties....

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Frame purchased for a tenner off ebay, stripped back to its ovalsed, beautifully brazed loveliness, powder coated, then pitted with Pace 36's. Retro-Tactic!


 
Posted : 28/04/2017 8:53 am
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Zippykona I'd have those tyre please 🙂


 
Posted : 28/04/2017 9:09 am
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Is this a serious question ?
What do u mean by MTBing are you going to be cycling on the same trails as your cyclocross or bigger stuff ?

If your doing bigger stuff obviously a newer bike will be much much better.
If your doing local bridleways etc then a new mtb will still be better.

Its fun to go back and ride a retro bike, but if you havent ridden a MTB in 15 years I think it would be more fun to get something new and see how that rides first.

If its local bridleways a 29er might be a good call.


 
Posted : 28/04/2017 9:16 am
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I wouldn't go out and buy one, just for the sake of having a bike to ride but there are one or two that I wouldn't mind owning and riding just for the pleasure of using nice objects. My Explosif I've had since '88 anyway, so I really can't see me parting with it now - why would I? It still gets ridden from time to time, mostly on group rides to give all the cool young dudes something to laugh about - and then they soon realise that there's not that much to laugh about after all.

The popular opinion is that these old bikes were/are only good for nice smooth fireroads and grassy lanes - the funny thing is, some of us were riding these much the same places as we ride now on a lot newer machinery. I don't remember being cautious or slow and mincy either. Those old pre-90's Konas are actually good handling bikes, not plush and compliant but they do handle well if you trust them and just let them go. I used to say that my old Explosif knows every good line on every climb and descent around here.

I've had some great times on it - some of the best riding and racing days of my life, never to be repeated now, that's for sure.


 
Posted : 28/04/2017 9:36 am
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I keep my Cindercone largely retro. It's a '95 model with some '97 parts. Riding it is a joy, it still devours miles efficiently and tight singletrack is heavenly. Not as good in steep descents but I wouldn't use it for that now...

If you want a taste of 90's Kona feel in a modern package - get a Soul. The best Kona that Kona don't make.


 
Posted : 28/04/2017 10:46 am
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If your 6ft ish or more consider a rigid 29er like a Singular Swift.


 
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