Forum menu
King & Queen Of...
 

[Closed] King & Queen Of The Hill- Who's in? (nae tyre chat allowed!!)

 hels
Posts: 971
Free Member
 

Or sweet corn.

I think some of you may be in for a surprise. It will be awesome tho - no surprises there !


 
Posted : 14/08/2015 2:11 pm
Posts: 383
Free Member
 

How's about a stage that runs down Gypsy Glen. It would be good to have all those gates open for once 😛


 
Posted : 14/08/2015 3:13 pm
 br
Posts: 18125
Free Member
 

[i]I wouldn't say dry[/i]

Well, maybe not dry for a Arab but compared to the summer so far certainly dry for around here.

[i]How's about a stage that runs down Gypsy Glen. It would be good to have all those gates open for once [/i]

To beat the KOM I'd reckon you'd also need it closed to other traffic, ie walkers coming up.


 
Posted : 14/08/2015 3:32 pm
 hels
Posts: 971
Free Member
 

A stage that runs down Gypsy Glen would be hopeless to try and organise. It is a very very busy path with walkers, and is already getting badly eroded. You get enough abuse from walkers when 4/5 of you belt down it on a Sunday afternoon. 500 ? No, just no. There are some bits of the Valley we need to stay away from in races.

And don't start me on access for medics and marshals. Of course, some people just don't bother with safety !


 
Posted : 14/08/2015 3:35 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

I was thinking it might be stages 5-8 from EWS, would fit with the trail closures (black and part of red)?

Will have a look when I'm down tomorrow for any 'signs'...


 
Posted : 17/08/2015 7:55 am
 grey
Posts: 104
Full Member
 

I know pretty much all the trails that are on this years K&Q :wink:, lets just say it's going to be an epic and if it's wet, a slippy slidey fun mudfest for most of it.


 
Posted : 17/08/2015 12:37 pm
Posts: 0
Full Member
 

^with Hels all the way. Riding Gypsy Glen with more than a few at any sort of speed is reckless and not in any spirit of the 'responsible' part of the SOAC.


 
Posted : 17/08/2015 12:50 pm
Posts: 1985
Free Member
Topic starter
 

If it's wet, a slippy slidey fun mudfest for most of it.

Current forecast is dry all week, then turning wet Friday and all over the weekend. Typical.


 
Posted : 17/08/2015 12:59 pm
 hels
Posts: 971
Free Member
 

Northwind - I hope to do some reconnaissance on Thursday, weather permitting - welcome to join me ? (with apologies for paging post but I can't find your email addy)


 
Posted : 17/08/2015 1:03 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

I can no longer make it so if anybody would like to buy my entry (£45) drop me a mail csykes1989 AT hotmail.co.uk

Today is the final day that a rider can be swapped over.


 
Posted : 17/08/2015 1:07 pm
Posts: 14926
Full Member
 

moonsaballoon - Member

not sure where it started or ended , basically i made an arse of one of the turns and came to a stop and noticed a section of trail on the left that cut across more than down and had a couple of hair pins in it . To be honest it might of been there for ages and i had never noticed it going down super steep but it did look fairly new

That may be the access path for the GoApe zip slide. I was coming down Super Steep once and pat my shants when I saw someone standing there. couldn't work out why someone was standing in the middle of the woods there, then noticed the path for go ape


 
Posted : 17/08/2015 1:16 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Anyone know where I could park up my campervan for the weekend?


 
Posted : 17/08/2015 9:22 pm
Posts: 0
Full Member
 

Agree with hels and Tom re Gypsy Glen. It's an amazing descent but it can't be used in any race. I did a little reccy tonight and the trails are running well. If the predicted rain comes then it's going to be a brilliant weekend.

johnbot, do you need a hookup?


 
Posted : 17/08/2015 9:46 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Not really Rob, I see there is a campsite but it's not in the heart of the action, kinda out of the way.


 
Posted : 17/08/2015 9:49 pm
Posts: 14926
Full Member
 

Anyone know where I could park up my campervan for the weekend?

Glentress Lodges right at the start of the trails. Just turn up on the day, it's very relaxed


 
Posted : 17/08/2015 10:24 pm
Posts: 66109
Full Member
 

@Hels, I was thinking I might skive off thursday afternoon actually... Was out doing GT #Endurobangers today, brilliant day for it. Will give you a shout if I get away


 
Posted : 17/08/2015 10:58 pm
Posts: 0
Full Member
 

As Bob says, there should be space near the Lodges. I'm sure I saw a load of campers parked between the lodges and the old hub carpark during the GT7, I'm not sure how you'd book a place as it was busy.


 
Posted : 17/08/2015 11:41 pm
 hels
Posts: 971
Free Member
 

Cheers Northwind - I can't make it to the trails until 1800ish. Praying for sunshine...


 
Posted : 18/08/2015 7:48 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

I have 3 spare tickets for the unReal showing on Saturday evening in Peebles, if anyone wants them just let me know asap and I'll send them to you. Don't want any money for them but I'm sure [url= http://www.tweedvalleymrt.org.uk/funding ]Tweed Valley Mountain Rescue[/url] would be grateful for a small donation.


 
Posted : 18/08/2015 11:14 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

@n1ppy any chance I could get those tickets pal?


 
Posted : 19/08/2015 2:43 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Yep, no worries. email me your address and I'll get it sent today. You should be able to see my email in my profile.


 
Posted : 19/08/2015 3:40 pm
Posts: 0
Full Member
 

I will be there marshalling so if you can say hi please do, I will be doing my usual best to keep spirits up and probably failing, if it's raining I will have my big umbrella so we can pretend we are F1 pro's again. 🙂


 
Posted : 19/08/2015 3:57 pm
Posts: 0
Full Member
 

Bit random but Northwind, was it you who borrowed my 24" bmx at the pump track the other week? 🙂


 
Posted : 19/08/2015 3:58 pm
Posts: 221
Free Member
 

More than a little hint has been dropped here:


 
Posted : 20/08/2015 10:33 pm
Posts: 66109
Full Member
 

@sazter- nope not me!


 
Posted : 20/08/2015 10:37 pm
 Si
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Golfie stages taped up and local sponsored riders out for a little explore today... Interesting choices, not wholly convinced but then again not racing.


 
Posted : 20/08/2015 10:52 pm
Posts: 8857
Full Member
 

Was out on the trails this eve. Stage 1 is already quite wet so if it rains will be "fun", stage 2 is nice and will hold up better. Overall though, doesn't feel like a lot of trail on the caberston side with a lot of commuting for a one day four stage event.


 
Posted : 20/08/2015 10:59 pm
Posts: 1985
Free Member
Topic starter
 

Likewise Glentress all taped up too, went for a spin thinking we might see some stuff and it was all damn obvious. S3 is going to be tough going after the previous transition. Long and the top and bottom 3rds need a bit of a pedal. Should sort the men from the boys.

Agree does seem like a long day for 4 stages. Don't get me wrong I like the fact it's long but would have been ace to squeeze 5 into that sort of distance. Going to be an great day regardless.


 
Posted : 20/08/2015 11:32 pm
Posts: 66109
Full Member
 

Worth remembering the stages are all officially shut on friday... Though there'll be people out cheating, because that's the spirit of enduro, if you're going to cheat do it on purpose 😉


 
Posted : 20/08/2015 11:47 pm
Posts: 0
Full Member
 

I do wonder if the non locals get peed off with the locals all knowing the trails for these races!


 
Posted : 20/08/2015 11:58 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

I do wonder if the non locals get peed off with the locals all knowing the trails for these races!

It's the same everywhere. Although the EWS guys kept the trails relatively secret for the race in Whistler, we'd guessed a good few of them before the official announcement and the local guys would of known the trails very very well. Just look at Barelli's result in Whistler compared to else where.


 
Posted : 21/08/2015 12:10 am
Posts: 1985
Free Member
Topic starter
 

I do wonder if the non locals get peed off with the locals all knowing the trails for these races!

Possiby, though those being used this weekend are so well worn I'd guess many could ride "blind" and still know them like the back of their hand.


 
Posted : 21/08/2015 7:08 am
Posts: 66109
Full Member
 

So what do we reckon? Good trails but doesn't feel like a huge amount of racing. I might take that back on Sunday night! Quite surprised at no Fort descent tbh, I suppose it's a fine line between classic and cliche but I love it as a stage, especially when it starts on the right hill. I was pretty relieved when we went in to tweak FYP last week since it ruled out The Shit One, not sure that stage needs more pedalling but I reckon it'll have a good rhythm. Ponduro trail is great but short...

(oh, there's been a little bit of strava-run-removing, cheatin' fans 😉 )

Is that community service into final fling? And, uh... One of the wolfs but I don't know exactly what, haven't been up there since the SES. But I don't think it's old lonewolf?

Re local knowledge... I reckon EWS proves that the best riders can still come and take away the locals' ball. But, as far as separating the knobbers from the other knobbers, I reckon it makes a big difference! If nothing else I could just practice the golfy stages and stay fresh for the race, that's a big advantage over non-local also-rans.


 
Posted : 21/08/2015 12:25 pm
Posts: 0
Full Member
 

Northwind is that why there was white spray paint on loads of roots and several corners on five year plan last week? I thought it was a bit odd.


 
Posted : 21/08/2015 12:28 pm
Posts: 66109
Full Member
 

Yah. It's ridden in lovely but cut itself a pretty deep trench in places so the drainage was a bit bollocksed and a lot of new lines were forming... Most of the shortcuts and braiding was just caused by issues in the original trail tbh. So nothing very major but a few changes to bring it back to spec and encourage people to stay in the trail. And a bunch of crappy straggly roots removed. Mark was still working on it on monday so there'll be more stuff I've not seen but, nothing major planned.

(my personal root is still there, that's basically all I care about)


 
Posted : 21/08/2015 12:47 pm
Posts: 1985
Free Member
Topic starter
 

So what do we reckon

Same as My comment above. Reckon it looks fun but would have liked 5 stages given the distance, as I said earlier a cheeky wee last stage down the final gt7 stage would have been a nice finish with minimal additional climbing from the pond.
I am looking forward to a big day on the bike though, certainly think it adds to the challenge compared to some others I've done in recent years as most of the local or non-series stuff tends to be easier going. So no real complaints

As for local advantage....separating the mid pack absolutely though given the trails are all fairly well used I reckon general local knowledge will be enough to make a difference even if you haven't pre-ridden stuff. Aside from any cheeky random taping, most stages are pretty well worn


 
Posted : 21/08/2015 12:53 pm
Posts: 1181
Full Member
 

Sounds good to me , only ridden the golfie once before so will have to practice there but have ridden the glentress stuff so wondering if I should give glentres stuff a miss on Saturday to save the legs . What's the big climb like from the golfie to the mast ?


 
Posted : 21/08/2015 12:54 pm
Posts: 1985
Free Member
Topic starter
 

I'm sticking to golfie only tomorrow, embarrassingly only ridden there once. Even without my chance riding of the GT stages last night I know both of them like back of my hand so little point busting a gut tomorrow to ride them, save the legs


 
Posted : 21/08/2015 1:06 pm
Posts: 0
Full Member
 

I think it's going to be a great day. There are 2 long and 2 short stages at each location with a big transition in between. The 5.15 total time might catch some folk out if there are queues for the stages. The rain forecast for Saturday night will make things interesting if it materialises.

I can understand some folk being hacked off with locals. like myself, figuring out what the trails are in advance but it must be the same for all enduros. So much planning has to go on that it's inevitable that locals who are on the trails regularly will figure out what's being used pretty easily.


 
Posted : 21/08/2015 3:31 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Shame it's not held on Tweed green in Pebbles again? And that Cademuir is omitted? Still looks pretty rad. Bricking it a bit now...


 
Posted : 21/08/2015 3:46 pm
Posts: 66109
Full Member
 

Loving the weather forecast tbh. Practice in the dust. Rain like **** all night. Race in the sun, in the mud. Chaos ensues but at least we don't get wet 😆 If we're really lucky it'll start to dry up and go all sticky.

I've not been up Cademuir for absolutely ages but there was a lot of felling up there in the areas where the mtb trails are...


 
Posted : 21/08/2015 4:09 pm
Posts: 0
Full Member
 

Some of the Cademuir trails are a total write off. Most of the DH trail is intact but the top of Stage4 (or Steep 'n Nasty) is wrecked. There's plans for some of us to go in and do some building/maintenance but not much has been done yet. It's a shame as I live at the bottom of the descent and used to ride there every day.


 
Posted : 21/08/2015 6:27 pm
Posts: 52609
Free Member
 

Just ridden a few stages today as they are taped, not racing but will be fun if it gets proper wet 🙂


 
Posted : 21/08/2015 6:50 pm
 br
Posts: 18125
Free Member
 

[i]What's the big climb like from the golfie to the mast ? [/i]

Long, open and you can pretty much see the top all the way..., bottom gear needed 🙂

I reckon that for us Mincers it'll be S2 that decides our 'placings' 'cos it's hard work in the wet, but for the fast boys it'll be S3 - as it's the longest and the one where you can make/lose the most time with the little climbs and good/bad line choices.


 
Posted : 21/08/2015 7:53 pm
Posts: 52609
Free Member
 

Think I did s2 today, nice little run that, still dry...


 
Posted : 21/08/2015 7:54 pm
Page 2 / 4