[Closed] Kelly McGarry destroys another set of wheels, a bike and himself

Remind me not to buy from YT...

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maybe he just needed road brake callipers, apparently they are better than discs

Boooooooooom

I've said it elsewhere, so I may as well say it here: It was a stupid, pointless, ill-conceived event. I wish him a speedy recovery.

Missing a smiley CFH?

Nope. Given the hit that Kelly's bike took at Rampage (A Diamond Back, IIRC) and the hits that many others have taken, that looks weak to me.

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Weak?
Do you do 50ft drops to flat?
If not, I don't think you have anything to worry about.

whats even going on with that pic? headset cup come out?

No, I don't, nowhere near. But, did you ever see Josh Bender, or anyone else in that ilk, break a bike that way? Nope. Thought not. It just looks like a big frame fail to me.

DR, the whole headtube has flared out. Badly.

stupid, pointless, ill-conceived event.

Here's a better perspective of what they were going down:

ah yer i see it now,

McGarry's brakes failed riding 1000ft of steps. He was out of control, and slammed to flat conrete at full speed from 50 feet up. No surprise the bike is wrecked.

I do sometimes think this move to make DH and freeride bikes lighter and lighter is resulting in some frames that are too light, especially from the smaller manufacturer's who don't have the R&D budgets of the big boys.

YT headtubes, Atomlab wheels but mainly Saint brakes come out of this quite badly

Completely daft event but IMO criticising the frame and wheels for breaking is just daft- that's a hit way in excess of what they're built for. It's just not relevant to normal use. It's like complaining that your car broke because you drove it into a wall, and deciding that this means it wouldn't be reliable for driving to the shops

I managed to do this at a relatively low speed, so it doesn't surprise me that these guys destroy their bikes.

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Absolutely no surprise something bad like this happened, it was a stupid event. Watched the course preview on PB the other day and pretty much everyone was saying it was stupid and the only way to win would be a suicide run. Some danger is OK but this race should never of happened IMO.

That was one massive impact....

This event is nothing short of exploitation by Redbull and deserves to be condemned.

Oh, and I agree that there are very few components/frames that would survive an impact like that.

mikey74 - Member
This event is nothing short of exploitation by Redbull and deserves to be condemned.

Nobody complains about Rampage or jumping out of space balloons or any of the other loony shit. People are free to take part if they like.

NcGarry would be doing daft shit like this anyway, even if he wasn't being paid.

Rampage allows riders to choose their own lines and make them as risky as they want. Plus, it's not a race. Nor is jumping out of a balloon.

I agree that both of those still have their inherent risks, but at least they allow the participants to largely be in control of their own lines/destiny and don't have the race against the clock element.

As frosty said above: To win a race of this nature you'd have to be almost suicidal. The Rampage, and all other urban dh events (for want of a better phrase) there are opportunities designed into the course for riders to check their speed accordingly and it becomes a game of skill, as much as fitness and nerve. This had none of that.

For Redbull sponsored riders, I'm sure they are "encouraged" to take part.

a nicer guy you could not hope to meet. Hope he's OK.

Completely daft event but IMO criticising the frame and wheels for breaking is just daft

If anything, the bike giving way the way it did, possibly broke his fall somewhat. You would not want to fall from that height and land on a solid object. It's completely bonkers that's he's even alive, watching that.

a nicer guy you could not hope to meet. Hope he's OK.

Very true. He was hanging around Whistler quite a bit last year when I was there. He always had a smile on his face and seemed very down-to-earth.

looking at the side on photo I would say Marzocchi forks are pretty damn tough!

Frame has done well too IMO. Head tube could have split or detached at a weld but has just yielded at the top cup.

@Dirtyrider - the top of the head tube has elongated forwards as the fork has taken a hit backwards.

The wheels have fallen to pieces though. Hell of an impact and no doubt well beyond what any part of the bike is built to survive.

there isn't a frame in the world that wouldn't break if you did that to it.

I'd be glad the headtube didn't rip clean off under impact, although regardless of the visible damage I doubt anyone would be too confident in riding the frame again...

tbh after the impact that took and still the frame is in one piece - there isnt a single person on this forum that needs to worry about the yt frame integrity 😉

Put an angleset in and it'll be good to go again

that's the world class version of riding down the steps in the local shopping precinct to look cool.

Bombers FTW!

Emergency care was slow arriving at the scene.

Is the allen bolt stem attachment used by any other manufacturer? It looks overly complicated compared to one clamped around the steerer.

The original video makes that event look a bit lame, but when you see it from another angle..... 😯

Is the allen bolt stem attachment used by any other manufacturer? It looks overly complicated compared to one clamped around the steerer.

It's been pretty much the standard on DC-forks for years now.

Iirc the Bombers on his Diamondback were bent backwards by his Rampage crash while the frame looked less abused.

He may be the one person on earth who can actually recreate that German mag test that melted an Ice-Tech rotor.

Hope he recovers soon.

Typical chinese reaction of ignore the injured person whos just crashed / been run over / fallen over etc...

Nasty. And looks a sadly pointless event.

That could have been one of the rare times when Hope V4s (or V2s) with vented rotors would have been appropriate rather than overkill.

there isn't a frame in the world that wouldn't break if you did that to it.

See Josh Benders Karpiel Apocalypse/Armageddon frames, for which that was the norm!

A Raleigh Grifter wouldn't have broke.

Frame has done well too IMO. Head tube could have split or detached at a weld but has just yielded at the top cup.

This.

 

cloudnine - Member

Typical chinese reaction of ignore the injured person whos just crashed / been run over / fallen over etc...

Perspective is key here, those guys were apparently a lot further away than it looks on the video.

See Josh Benders Karpiel Apocalypse/Armageddon frames, for which that was the norm!

Those ill thought out monstrosities would've spat him off long before he got where he did

Those ill thought out monstrosities would've spat him off long before he got where he did

Yeah, the suspension on those things were designed for massive, single hits. The slow rebound and hard compression alone would have rendered the suspension useless before he'd even reached that point.

LOL`d @ enfht comment!

I had a Grifter when I was a kid, No way it would have broke! 😉

See Josh Benders Karpiel Apocalypse/Armageddon frames, for which that was the norm!

they dropped him as he broke too many, and he ended up buying multiple bikes out of his own pocket.

Landing on dirt with wheels flat on a slight slope is slightly different to nose diving flat concrete.

Shit, pointless event. I watched the headcam that was out the other day and thought wtf... Asking for trouble