[Closed] Is Afan dead?

Jeez that Black line down is tricky, it’s a whole other kettle of balls compared to the Black run on Whites, it’s a non surfaced run built for an Enduro race.

Are we sure that’s the only way? There were diversion signs near there a while back, but it was to skip the ‘new’ top loop.

I’ve misread that, no I wouldn’t fancy it in the middle of winter, it’s a bit lively for me.

It will be interesting to see what happens when the felling starts there. There's no way it will just be the black run down, most would be stuck up the mountain 😆 It's completely different to anything else you'll find in the Afan trails.

Afan local here. Ride in the valley at least twice a week, usually all the off piste stuff, place is far from dead especially the local scene which is thriving.

The trails do need some investment though, I think mountain biking has moved on from trails like Y Wal and Whites.

Also, just to add, the felling will effect Zig Zags and S4 (black run), and when they are closed, I'm pretty sure they are not making a new alternative descent, it will be straight down a fire road, which is laughable.

I'm pretty sure they are not making a new alternative descent,

Anyone know when the felling work is due to start?

I like afan it's a proper bike ride. However the southerners I ride with prefer uplifts.

If they don't a half decent descent after ordering the felling that will be really bad.

I like afan it's a proper bike ride. However the southerners I ride with prefer uplifts.

If they don't a half decent descent after ordering the felling that will be really bad.

There's still a great day, or two riding in Afan to be had, regardless of rain, cafes, or shops. I'm currently sat in the back of our motorhome after 2 days in South Wales. Heading back to the south, where seemingly all the softies live. We've ridden in torrential rain on both days, ridden up trails that were rivers in fact. One day at Afan, staying at Bryn Betws, one day at BPW. Although BPW is fab, I still prefer the challenge of riding the technical trails at Afan flat out. Rocky, twisty and loose. 'Proper' trails.(yes I know it's still a trail centre) but that's why it's good, it feels like a more natural trail. Although Bryn Betws is great, there's definitely a gap in the market for more quality, on mountain accommodation. I've been riding in Afan for 20 odd years and it still appeals when you want to get wet and sloppy on a trail with a variety of difficulty and duration. There's lots more that could be done to make it work better/harder but it's still ace. Good enough to knacker the 4 people half asleep in this van right now.

The felling is imminent I think, just depending on weather.

I am staying exactly in between Afan and Cwmcarn in April, I have one day to ride with the trail hound, what does everyone recommend?

Thinking either Y wall at Afan or Cafall then Twrch at Cwmcarn?

The w2 trail at Afan, which is a combination of Y Wal and Whytes Level, is a good day out.

As link posted on page 1, there appear to be plans afoot for the area. Looks ominous
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Ominous how?

I suspect, they're offering MTBing because there is some in the area, or they'll build their own short section of trail to join up with the existing network - I doubt they'll suddenly take ownership of the lot and charge people to ride it.

This sort of this is exactly the point of having a trail network in a former mining area - it could be great for the area.

"Bear Grylls Survival Academy" 🙂

Looks good, but generally a development like that would need sequestered and gated space for lodges, sportshalls and pools like Centerparcs does.

Has a site been identified, and where is it in relation to the trails?

EDIT:

Just looked it up - not actually in any part of Afan Forest, just south of Cymmer. Can't see any problem with this, the area badly needs something. Although there a few BWs on the site so they'd have to stop randoms coming in and abusing their trails!

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Where's that lot going in Dez? As long as they use an old industrial site down the valley then that looks cool.

Does anyone know how long this felling around Zig Zags is planned to last for?

It was in an industry magazine my ex gave me, while ago, but I thought it was closer than martinhutch's pic shows. Can imagine the plans have changed.
Only ominous in the fact that they have to build the place!

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Does anyone know how long this felling around Zig Zags is planned to last for?

Nothing from NRW or Bob the Ranger, but 'a while' I would suspect AND they'll need to rebuilt the trail afterwards. If I had to guess, 3 months for the clearance and about the same to rebuild the trail, it'll come back smoother and 'boring' looking for a while, but once the rain and wind get at it, the top soil will be lost and it'll be a bit of a painful chore to ride, like 'Hidden Valley' over on Penhydd.

Hopfully I'm wrong, some of the other felled trails have come back okay bar the lack of trees, but Afan doesn't seem to do well without the trees.

Worrying news, the wiggly descent on Y Wal is probably my all-time fave bit of trail centre.

The £1 car parking fee was a nice surprise compared to most trail centres. Excellent toilets & showers too.

Afan is ALIVE !

Ok there is a lot of forestry missing but the trails are open and some have new sections added. The Wall has new sections on the climb up, the black descent is brutal for me so I use Zig Zags, yes it's open and still excellent. Oh and if you are after a few jumps the bike park before you descend Zig Zags has been revamped and open. On the other side of Afan, climb up Penhydd and you have Sidewinder, Dead Sheep Gulley, Big Dipper and Widow Maker (Blue Scar) to play with.
Get up there.

Brilliant. Must get back there this summer. 👌

Off there in a few weeks after about 6 years. Looking forward to it 🙂

I'm Afan....get it?
IGMC.

I was up Bryn Bettws last night and there was a few people camping up there. It looked fun.
Have a good time lads.

afan is not dead for me the trails are stll good but some people from glyncorrwg cant not ride a bike at all

Went a few weekends ago with some mates, first time in about 6 years, and we all really enjoyed it.  Shame about the trees but the riding is still great fun.  The café at Glyncorrwg is a bit basic but compensated for by the huuuuge portions, Afan centre caff and shop are both really good.  Might have lost some trade since BPW opened but both car parks were nearly full on the Sunday.  An hour long scamper round Blue Scar was particularly good fun

I went a couple months back for the first time, did W2. I absolutely loved it. Cracking weather too! Amazed it doesn’t get more credit, some of the descents were great. A lot of climbing but I just spin up slowly. A great days cycling.

I’m going with some mates in July. Been three times in last four years. It’s fantastic imo. Stay in Cymmer and you can do a day visit to BPW which is totally different kind of kick. Afan for me is MTB at its roots; natural, scenic and somewhat epic.

 Afan for me is MTB at its roots; natural, scenic and somewhat epic.

Just shows how much we've forgotten in such a short time..

Hey it's good to hear you enjoyed, spread the word. I think a lot of people have forgotten about the place. It's a shame about the missing trees but they had some disease so had to be cut.