I do love the purple/plum colour that Stooge used for the Mk3 and Speedball.
Blue is nice too though...
The Fortitude Race is a lot lighter than the Longitude. Both those bikes listed are heavy alfine fortitude and a 2x10 (or maybe even 3x10) geared bike. I picked up a Longitude frmae at the time i had my Fortitude Race built up at the time much heavier esp. as i had light wheels on. But the Fortitude's main issue was rear tire clearance i struggled in the mud with some 2.2s
No fused about sliding drop out as they make light frames heavy adding about 400g for paragons
Genesis seem to have it correct then Jameso left and they switched from Reynolds tubing to heavier gauge cheaper Cromo
Dont mind the look of the Stooge but again they are sooo heavy unless you buy Ti
Salsa El Mariachi- great bike.Again better before the sliding dropouts. But the problem with these older bikes are the reach and stack measurement are really short (even the fortitude) when you are used to a long modern trail bike. I'd have to buy a XXL in an old frame to get the appropriate reach on a modern large frame.
OP maybe take a look at Singlebe bikes? Might be worth dropping a mail for a custom quote. They make some v nice steel 29ers from what I’ve seen. No idea of your budget tho.
If you want 'rowdy' for a rigid 29er then you really want to go 29+ - I had a P29er and built some 29+ wheels which would fit with about 1mm clearance either side, but the 'steamroller' effect from the bigger tyres was enough to make me sell the Ritchey and get another frame - based on Surly Krampus geometry, but custom made in China in titanium (for less than the price of a Surly frame).
What are Stooges like on more 'classic' XC? I still love my OG Swift for pootling around on but have been Stooge curious for a while. The Swift quickly gets out of its depth (at least with me on), but I'm not sure if the Stooge will be as fun on the more boring stuff.
Surely someone has the approximate weight of a complete build
Surely someone has the approximate weight of a complete build
Hannah did a quick video on her MK4 on Facebook recently, I think it was last week. From memory I think it was 14.3kgs. However if you're building one up from a frame set I'd imagine you could bring that down a bit.
Mine's approx 29lb/13kg with Stans Flow Mk3 wheels + 2.6 tyres, and about 32lb/14.5kg with the Hope/Rabbit Hole wheels from my Krampus (this does include a meaty 3" DHF!)
So not a svelte xc beast by any means, but it's a lovely bike to ride all day.
I did a 42 mile ride on it the other day with 5500ft of climbing.
I’d be happy with around 28lbs so that’s doable?
Probably, give or take a pound. My Stans wheels are pretty light (I think 1870g).
Bear in mind it's a steel frame with double top-tube and an EBB, never going to be really light.
They don't ride 'heavy' though. Very playful bike for it's length and weight.
Oh didn’t realise it came with an EBB, no experience running one🤔
Just rotate it to where you want it (to tension chain if SS) tighten the pinch bolts, install threaded BB as normal, that's it as far as I know! if not SS it gives you options to (slightly) play with BB height and effective chainstay length. Just keep all the moving bits well greased.
Cheers yes plan to run 1x11 don’t have the knees for single speed
I'm running my stooge mk3 B plus with a kinesis maxlight carbon fork. Honestly can't believe how good the carbon fork feels. Same rake but 15mm longer a-c. Works a treat with the b plus tyres.
Dove - what was the name of the Chinese fabricator? I think I asked you this before but have forgotten.
OP maybe take a look at Singlebe bikes?
Oh my, I think a little but of sex wee has just escaped, thank you.
If I only had one bike it would be a rigid 29er I crossed Iceland on a Surly krampus... they can do anything
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32.7lbs including the top tube bag with tools and inner tube.
Great bike, had a Mk1 previously and they work very well what ever the ride.
@malvern rider that looks gorgeous, what model is that?
Agree.
It was the first ‘The Plus 29’(430mm chainstays, standard 73mm BSA) according to FB page
If I get to the big six O (and work hard to be a skinny legend) then I’ve promised to (with help 😎 ) design my bad-self a custom rigid 29er and get it built. Didn’t even try a 29er until 2016 yet was immediately hooked.
The above looks like a very slack seat angle, I always loved that but I thought we had moved along?
Plan to run 2.6 front and 2.4 rear to begin with , something fast but definitely a grippy front to run tubeless.
What do you recommend.
Currently running a 2.6 Goodyear Newton EN Ultimate up front, and a 2.5 Maxxis HR II wide trail at the back. Plenty of grip, but pretty fast rolling.
Those SingleBe bikes are lovely looking.
@ajantom cheers for that I’ll check those out, haven’t seen any of the offerings from Goodyear
pleased with my bootzipper.
got it frame only on pre order, so it was cheap enough to not worry too much about not liking it. Its got great geometry, ive had it down some chutes steep enough that i would take it steady on my Five29. i think the lack of compression and geometry change of a rigid actually helps in some respects, it doesn't nose dive on the run outs. Still terrified of getting it airbourne. I'm too used to having 150mm of insurance to soak up the landings, i feel like im going to break my arms off if i start riding drops on the boot zipper.
the whole "new age fun with a vintage feel" strikes me as it making a great "parts bin" frame, so i was a bit annoyed/dissapointed about the boost spacing. I would rather it had a horizontal combi dropout like the slotty inbreds, with a normally spaced bolt through fork. As it is, ive got a 100 quid pair of superstar wheels on the bike and a nice pair of Hope wheels still taking up space in the parts bin.
Karate Monkey on a budget/Giant BMX/Flatbar gravel bike.
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Dove – what was the name of the Chinese fabricator? I think I asked you this before but have forgotten.
@andykirk
I believe it was Waltly, I have a Waltly frame (purchased second hand from the original owner) which has been great for me...background here:
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https://www.merlincycles.com/ridley-ignite-a-gx1-mountain-bike-2019-149191.html, I´ve got one, can´t fault it.
@rocketdog was top of my list but like hens teeth!! And Sam no intention of anew production run in the immediate future due to tooling costs.
Anyone got rough build weights for their Stooge?
My Stooge Mk2 frame ebb and headset 3.23kg, fork and crown race 1.21kg cut steerer
Built Mk2 14.4kg with x7, KS dropper, square taper bb, 25mm 29x2.4 rear and 45mm 29x3.0 front.
My Stooge Mk4 frame ebb and seatclamp 3.15kg, fork alone 1.32kg uncut steerer
Build in progress with mostly the same parts....so its gonna be similar weight.
I’m hoping to be around 28-29lbs hopefully with light wheels
Oops sorry double tapped
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Coming from a Dh/enduro background this looks fun. I am burned out with geo, chasing the nth degree.
Looks great but I’ve always preferred to buy a frame and then spec it to my own component choice.
