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I think I'll add "lose a stone" to the list of pre-requisites too, by then I may have plucked up the courage AND won't snap a lightweight XC frame and rims. Sound like a plan?


 
Posted : 15/07/2010 5:49 pm
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Just ride round it and go and enjoy your local trails with teeth and face intact. If it were on a trail and had a softer or slightly sloped non-concrete landing it would be easier to do, but it sounds like a bit of a do or die kind of thing and panicking first time will slap you right onto the concrete. What bike you doing it on?


 
Posted : 15/07/2010 5:58 pm
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Build a kicker at the top ๐Ÿ˜‰

The crasher is crazylegs - he came out of it OK I believe.


 
Posted : 15/07/2010 6:02 pm
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Yeah, but who's the poor fella with the broken face in coffeeking's pic. That's not crazylegs, is it?


 
Posted : 15/07/2010 6:14 pm
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push the bike away to unweight the front and just drop it


 
Posted : 15/07/2010 6:18 pm
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You can just drop it, as long as you yank the front up enough. Grow a pair and go for it.


 
Posted : 15/07/2010 6:31 pm
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DONT yank the front


 
Posted : 15/07/2010 6:31 pm
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Why not? He's going to be heading downhill into a hole.. how can he survive without pulling up?


 
Posted : 15/07/2010 7:08 pm
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I think the yank part was the problem. Would end in misery.


 
Posted : 15/07/2010 7:18 pm
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Listen to Jedi. Once he shows you the way, it all makes sense.

By pushing the bike down it will then pop up (although he's better placed to explain this to you).


 
Posted : 15/07/2010 8:11 pm
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I'm not against listening to jedi, nice to learn from a pro, but I'm not sure how it would apply to the one in question as I'm fairly sure that if I just unweight the front by pushing out I'll grab a faceful of dirt due to the rear hooking up and me heading at 30 degrees down? I suppose the rear hooking up shouldn't really affect me if I've got some pace, but I am still going down - am I not going to land very much nose-first? I'll try it on the smaller one and see how I get on!


 
Posted : 15/07/2010 8:22 pm
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>> [i]It's the first obstacle out of my door[/i]

Do you own that obstacle? i.e. can you build a bit of 'shore or even lay a plank over it? Or maye just an inverted 360 with hand-plant off the coping.


 
Posted : 15/07/2010 8:23 pm
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I'll let the big man answer that one. I probably wouldn't try it. ๐Ÿ˜€


 
Posted : 15/07/2010 8:24 pm
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mamadirt - that isn't crazylegs, although I'm sure that's how he looked after the crash, only difference is his teeth were/are still intact.
The scars are healing nicely.


 
Posted : 15/07/2010 9:15 pm
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Do you have a one of those riding buddies that takes one look at any obsticle regardless of size or general sketchyness and just hits it first time? See if they want to session your local trail and watch them do it, i find stuff easier if you can see some one go through it first (providing they don't crash!) As a second option beg/borrow/steal a full face helmet lean back and send it! Trying to avoid the hole with your front wheel by using Jedi's advice.

Iain


 
Posted : 15/07/2010 9:59 pm
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CK where do you live? Can we all come and give it a try on video?


 
Posted : 15/07/2010 10:03 pm
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why would the back wheel hook? you have unweighted the front and have forward momentum and your weight will already be behind the bb from the push


 
Posted : 15/07/2010 10:23 pm
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Haha no I don't own the obstacle, its just at the bottom of my road. Yes anyone is welcome to come (Glasgow) and try it on video, I'll even provide tea/coffee and biscuits!

Jedi - not sure, I've just had similar things do that to me in the past hence my nerves around it and being unsure of that method (it's my normal method so having cocked it up that way on smaller similar ones I didn't want to do it on this one, fairly sure it would be missing teeth and snapped frame here). I'm probably just making mountains out of molehills

Unfortunately I have no-one else around me that would nail it first time. That's not true, I do know someone who would, but he has 8" of soft travel and no common sense in such circumstances. With 8" of travel I'd give it a shot. With 3.5 I want to nail it properly rather than survive it lol.


 
Posted : 15/07/2010 10:58 pm
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next time im up scotland i'll show you


 
Posted : 15/07/2010 11:00 pm
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Yes anyone is welcome to come (Glasgow) and try it on video, I'll even provide [s]tea/coffee and biscuits![/s] first aid including CPR and/or triage

Presumably the dip is big enough to swallow the back wheel?


 
Posted : 15/07/2010 11:09 pm
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jedi - I could be tempted to take you up on that, quite easily, maybe even book in a session!

molgrips - it's not THAT bad a dip, but it is wheel radius and about 6-8" deep, that combined with the downslope means that your wheels effectively drop into a "stopper" as you pass over it, like when you're riding along in a peat bog and hit a small ditch you didn't spot and find yourself on the floor wondering what happened! I've probably over-talked it now and just need to do it.


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 10:21 am
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I've seen trials lads hop onto things with a different slope from pointing down something. Requires a big hop tho ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 10:47 am
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i'm all for jumps, drops and the like. but similar scenarios have definitely left me erring on the side of the not bothering. if you really have to ride down it, i'd go for hopping over the stone as much as you can, and any success in getting the back wheel to touch down before the front is a bonus. at the very least you want both wheels landing simultaneously. it's never going to look or feel very graceful!


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 10:54 am
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Sounds like you've finally found a use for a 29er


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 12:29 pm
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I think a rule is needed. If this thread makes it to 3 pages, coffeeking has to just give it a go, and film it. No more excuses.


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 12:33 pm
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Sounds a good rule.


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 12:37 pm
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I'll second it! ๐Ÿ˜†


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 12:38 pm
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How many more posts to get to three pages?


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 12:42 pm
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i havent read the original post but I would say pin it. speed it your friend.


 
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i havent read the original post but I would say pin it. speed it your friend.

Just about sums STW up really.


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 12:45 pm
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I think the tension needs to be built up first. We need a set of photos from various angles.


 
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Definitely a good rule, good luck coffeeking!


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 12:46 pm
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Eat loads of pies and ride through the wall.


 
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sounds like you've psyched yourself out of this a lot...!

try getting off your bike and walking it down the line you would take, feel if wheels do actually 'hook' on the coping.

i had a very similar scenario with a path gap(TM) which had also had a bit of a divet before a coping on a wall and about a 4ft drop. took me a wee while to balls up but it was easy once i had done it the first time. and the grass on the other side of the path where i would be landing was probably a bit more reassuring.


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 12:57 pm
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Haha it's not at 3 pages yet and I've had 2 more days of hyping myself up to it!


 
Posted : 18/07/2010 4:08 pm
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But foolishly you have raised your profile again...


 
Posted : 18/07/2010 4:32 pm
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HA!


 
Posted : 18/07/2010 4:33 pm
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I live in Glasgow, and I don't have much need of my teeth, I'll give it a go.


 
Posted : 18/07/2010 5:02 pm
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Hehe, awesome, now I've worked myself up to it I'll do it. I've a day off tomorrow, maybe then. I've added an inch to my forks just to make sure ๐Ÿ™‚

mansonsoul - I don't need a biking god to make me look a fool and then not want to do it :o) At least let me break something alone first!


 
Posted : 18/07/2010 5:49 pm
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that's fine coffeeking, but like everyone says, make sure you get video or pics up so we can spectate vicariously!


 
Posted : 18/07/2010 6:06 pm
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I just went down again with every intention. And bottled it again. Photo to follow.


 
Posted : 18/07/2010 7:07 pm
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ooh pics will be good


 
Posted : 18/07/2010 9:37 pm
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don't know if you've already said this, but why do you need to be able to get down it? is it randomly in the middle of a route you do, or do you just see it and have a nagging need to conquer it?


 
Posted : 19/07/2010 9:39 am
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Nagging need, it would be a nice start to my rides.

From the top:
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And from the side

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Posted : 19/07/2010 9:29 pm
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Don't know how to ride it (but don't think you would get that caught up on it) but those see-saw things with a horses head are awesome! They have all gone around here, I suspect I would spend more time on that than I would riding the drop next to it ๐Ÿ™‚


 
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