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I'm really, really hoping that some of the more PC responses in here are more than a little in jest.
Seriously though, there are obviously so many emasculated office workers in here it makes me want to cry.
Well, it would do if I spent my entire day pushing a pencil around a desk and having to be all "modern" and have "feelings" so I don't upset the skirt wearers.
Best post in this thread!!!
Is that the choice?
No there is also the south of england where workshops are all Cath Kidston/Emma Bridgewater and have a special draw for guyliner.
before i saw that video i quite fancied an orange five.
now that ive seen it however, i still fancy an orange five.
its just that now i want a white one.
I don't see anyone getting upset over it, it's just a bit '14 year old boy' isn't it, but judging by some of the responses that fits pretty well. I'm northern and don't work in an office btw.
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Wow their are some total PC fundamentalists about...
I don't see anyone getting upset over it, it's just a bit '14 year old boy' isn't it, but judging by some of the responses that fits pretty well.
This. Just seems a bit of an odd way to choose to portray your company. Then again, if it works for their target market then fair enough.
It's a total straw man argument for people to suggest anyone is getting all 'PC gone mad' and het up over this. The only ones getting het up seem to be those in favour of porn in the workplace.
For me it's mostly a mixture of bemusement and being a bit embarrassed for you/them. 🙂
Saying "Urz PC gone mad!1!!" = New Godwin's Law
Still have a big 80s page 3 Sun of Linda Lusardi up in our workplace, makes me glad to clock on every day 😀
makes me glad to clock on
Euphemism?
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It's a total straw man argument for people to suggest anyone is getting all 'PC gone mad' and het up over this.
Fair comment.
The only ones getting het up seem to be those in favour of porn in the workplace.
But doing exactly the same in reverse does weaken your point slightly.
I'm a woman. I own an Orange. I'm not offended by posters or calendars with naked women in them.
But I'm with mikeconnor on this one. Folks need to understand why some people [i]are[/i] offended by grot on the walls.
A lot of people in this thread are missing the point, I think.
There were naked women in that video? 😉
nealglover - this sounds quite het up to me:
Seriously though, there are obviously so many emasculated office workers in here it makes me want to cry.
Well, it would do if I spent my entire day pushing a pencil around a desk and having to be all "modern" and have "feelings" so I don't upset the skirt wearers.
So does talking about 'PC fundamentalists'.
I don't think anyone on either side of the fence is getting "het up" about it personally, and as you rightly pointed out, saying they are is a straw man argument (probably from both sides)
Many moons ago I worked with a guy whos wife was in charge of a large group of men, when she did her first arrival look around there was allsorts of wallpaper some nice and some very nasty. She didnt say anything or show any disgust but a week later she started putting up her own posters some nice and some not so very quickly all the nasty stuff was removed and her point was made. I think it helped when they realised that she had friends living in Holland and as this was pre internet days they wernt going to win and as she was the boss they were never going to.
I guess that's why she got promoted to where she was and got on even further and they guys respected her to.
Wonder if the glamour model on the wall earns enough to ride an orange
I'm quite shocked that welders have pictures of nekkid women on their walls after what I was told about them 😆
Never mind that! There was a Nirvana poster! Orange are glamourising gun ownership and suicide! This is disgraceful.
I shall immediately pen a furious missive to the Guardian to complain. And the Daily Express to ask what Diana would have done about it. Etc.
nealglover - this sounds quite het up to me:
If you could refrain from using my, quite obviously, tongue in cheek posts to bolster your point of view, which, equally obviously is pure sanctimony, it would be appreciated.
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The Daily Express is too busy making up weather predictions to worry about what Diana might have thought about it.
The Daily Express is too busy making up weather predictions to worry about what Diana might have thought about it.
This is a good point. Either that or telling us that red wine will kill us. Or that it will cure cancer.
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"Could". It's only ever a "could" with the Express.
Thing is folks Bill the Fabricator christens those pics over your frames.
Think of it as a sort of phallic-champagne bottle ship launching ceremony..
The WI called. They're cancelling most of you lots membership for being too easily offended.
The WI called. They're cancelling most of you lots membership for being too easily offended.
Have you seen their Calender!! Shocking.
Christened it?
I'm more worried that my LBS still has posters of Lance up on their walls!!!
Now if you lot want to be properly appalled, try going into the back office of the camera shop I used to work in. Not so much that it was papered floor to ceiling with nude/porn shots, more that they were all copies taken from films people had brought in for developing. I suppose digital's killed this fine tradition
(it did make me think that if ever I have a film of pictures of me being poked with a strap-on, I'll build my own dark room rather than nip into Boots)
hora - MemberThing is folks Bill the Fabricator christens those pics over your frames.
Think of it as a sort of phallic-champagne bottle ship launching ceremony..
That's why they're so expensive- the personal touch.
Have you ever been in an modern office environment where you've seen naked ladies on the wall? I'm sure you'll have been in a few garages that have them up...
The distinction comes in somewhere near: 'work hard play hard'. I can hear Guy Martin saying it now 😉
'Proper grafters' ''men's men' 'nowt wrong wi that' 😉
I imagine Orange just like their staff to feel comfortable and let them have their own 'comforts' around them. They're obviously not scared to show this work ethos and good luck to them, I say.
If you could refrain from using my, quite obviously, tongue in cheek posts to bolster your point of view, which, equally obviously is pure sanctimony, it would be appreciated.
How odd that it's seen as sanctimony to suggest that perhaps the workplace might not be the most appropriate place to display porn. By the way, are you all happy with masturbating in the workplace too, seeing as that's what porn is for?
I mean anyone who would complain about 'hora's frame christening ceremony' is just a hand-wringing uptight arsehole right? 😉
I don't see anyone getting upset over it, it's just a bit '14 year old boy' isn't it
Yeah, now I'm all grown up I don't like looking at tits either.
Get over yourself.
I like looking at tits as much as the next man, there's just a time and a place. I've always found the idea of straight blokes looking at porn together a bit weird, but especially so at work.
....perhaps the workplace might not be the most appropriate place to display porn. By the way, are you all happy with masturbating in the workplace too, seeing as that's what porn is for?
I dont know about you, but I'm pretty sure I can be in the same room as a Pirelli calendar without feeling duty bound to "knock one out"
Also, you seem to be using a rather Victorian sounding definition of the word "Porn" ?
I've already made it look like I care far more than I really do by the number of times that I've responded to this thread. As I've already said my main response is bemusement, especially at how upset some people are getting at the outrageous suggestion that titty mags and work probably shouldn't mix.
Ok nealglover - where would you draw the line of acceptability?
Ok nealglover - where would you draw the line of acceptability?
Whatever the people that work there are happy with.
Seems simple, but I don't see why my ideas of acceptability (or anyone else who isnt affected) should be used to determine someone else's workplace.
I tend to find it works the other way, particularly on a practical basis: men with more than a handful of sexual partners = lucky. Women = slappers.Men that go out and pull on a saturday night for a one night stand = lucky. Women that do the same = slappers.
Men that look at topless women/pg 3 ladies/pornography = perfectly acceptable. Woman that do the posing = slappers.
Women swooning over men = unfaithful. Men swooning over ladies = just being men.
Women getting older = past it old hags. Men = distinguished.
I could go on. The imagined sexual liberation of women is, quite frankly, disappointing to say the least.
As I said in my original post, there is a good deal of hypocrisy out there with picture of women being nothing more than a bit of slap-n-tickle fun....unless it's their daughter/wife/girlfriend on the picture.
We are still very much a patriarchal society.
No unfortunately you still live in a society governed by nature. In nature younger females tend to go for older higher status males and those males tend to go for younger more fertile women. Also in nature males tend to try to make sure that their sexual partners are carrying their offspring whilst simultaneously trying to shag everything that moves - this explains the bit about "women = unfaithful". You only have to look in the comments section of the Daily Mail to see many women (in equal measure to men) actually supporting General Petraeus instead of his wife.
Last time I heard a girl being called a "slut" was by another female who I thought was reasonably well educated. Instead of just blaming this on men, women need to start addressing their own attitudes towards each other as well. In fact I'd go as far as saying that most of the women in my social circle objectify men and women as much as men do.
Funnily enough, humans are animals. Blame god/the universe/nature and perhaps try to change it but don't let your judgement be clouded by bitterness.
Whatever the people that work there are happy with.Seems simple, but I don't see why my ideas of acceptability (or anyone else who isnt affected) should be used to determine someone else's workplace.
You'll have to point me to where I said it shouldn't be allowed. Pretty sure I'm allowed to have an opinion on it though.
Quality.
If I had tits I would have laughed them off by now.
All the lads in our workshop have calenders up with the ladies on, these are all calenders sent to our factory's fab department every year by big suppliers of tools, machinery and consumables. If you send a load of blokes calenders with naked ladies on, they're going to get put up.
Dont't have a go at the hard working lads on the shop floor for out dated values, it's more than likely the suppliers wanting to keep the business, thinking "I know what we'll send em a calender with some birds with their tits out!"
And yes I'm up north!
Also the last time I saw nude calendars was in Leicester at the coach station - there is a cafe there run by women - in full view of the public and children they have photos of naked men and their shaved arses on display.
It's only men that like nude calendars at work then? TBH, it's only a human body and I think anyone that get's really uptight about it should learn that the human body is...well fairly normal. I wouldn't put one up at work but I don't really care when I see them.
You'll have to point me to where I said it shouldn't be allowed. Pretty sure I'm allowed to have an opinion on it though.
You asked me for my opinion on what's acceptable and I gave it.
I didn't comment on whatever your opinion is ??
What was the point you were making with this statement then?
Seems simple, but I don't see why my ideas of acceptability (or anyone else who isnt affected) should be used to determine someone else's workplace.
Seems to me to be implying that's what I'm doing.