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I'm in the market for some new wheels and have been looking at the Hope Fortus .... I'm just wondering how strong the 26's are as I think the 30's are a tad heavy for my type of riding. Anyone running them
Have you seen the cross section of the 30? It's a totally different rim with a lot of extra material and is billed as their DH rim.
Having just retired my last set of Hope rims I'm done with them. I won't bother with them again. Buy some xm481's and enjoy the 30mm width and lower weight.
I had a set of the old hopes and found them like cheese..... Ideally I would have DT Rims on hope or Dt hubs but wifey is being a bit tight with my budget due to holidays.lol. Ive been offered a good deal on the Hopes so I'm just wondering how strong the 26's are... I'm thinking there just the same rim as the old Enduro Rims just rr badged.
The 26s aren't the old Enduro rim - that was 23mm. They're a slightly wider rim based on a similar cross section. The 30s are a downhill rim and are seriously heavy.
I really don't get the hate for Hope wheels/hubs on STW - my own experience, and that of everyone I know in the real world who runs them, is universally positive.
JP
I've just been through this process. Very helpful thread here..
https://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/400-wheelset/
I ended up ordering EX511 on Hope 4 hubs from Actionsports. (The XMs might suit your requirements better.) The Hope rims are just too heavy compared to others.
The 30's are overkill for my riding so its either the 26's or a set of Hunt Enduro's..... I'm just a bit cautious about the Hunt hubs. More digging me thinks before I bite the bullet. Cheers for the responses guys.
What's your budget?
jjprestidge
I really don’t get the hate for Hope wheels/hubs on STW – my own experience, and that of everyone I know in the real world who runs them, is universally positive.
Don't think there's "hate" for Hope stuff, their hubs are fine. But their range of wheels is poor - their only 30mm option is a ridiculously heavy DH rim, their 35mm rim is heavy but soft and easily dented. The rims are just not good enough compared to the competition.
£350ish Timidwheeler.
I don't hate on Hope, I've got almost everything but a Hope frame. The quality of their rims was really lagging behind the competition and I was looking forward to their Fortus release because buying a pre built set of Hope Hoops is a painless experience.
Unfortunately the new options aren't all that so I broke from tradition and got my first set of full custom wheels. I'm still using Pro 4 hubs but I got some DT rims at a discount.
To be fair, all the Hope rims I've had have been absolutely hammered and I've never totally destroyed one. It's just that they dent and bend too easily. The 35W was the worst I've had. Those wide edges fold over really easily and they're not worth the massive weight penalty. I've totally transformed the feel of my bike for the better by ditching the weight of the 35W and the new, much lighter, XM481 just survived two weeks of Alpine DH riding with no issues at all.
The Xm481 or Ex471 would be my ideal build.... But they're coming back over budget at the moment. I'm on a double edge sword.... Its either buy hopes.... Crap Rims good hubs...... Hunt wheels..... Unknown longevity at the moment. Looks like another afternoon spent trolling the net.lol
I'd buy the Hoops with the Fortus 26 rims. I know we're whinging about the rims but in reality they'll be perfectly functional with no messing around. Then down the line, you've got good hubs if you want to swap rims.
The Fortus 26 are listed at 2040g in 27.5. The Hunt Trailwide, despite being a wider rim, are nearly 300g lighter at 1757. Which would be ok if the Hope rims were tough, but they're not.
Hunts have great reviews, cost less, and come already taped with tubeless valves. I'd have them ahead of the Hopes anyday. If you want Hope hubs, actionsports.de will build them with DT rims at a good price.
I got some used hope enduro wheels and am getting the rims swapped to my trusty E13 ones
Otherwise I'd have expanded my budget to get Pro 4 hubs with DT rims.
Took the budget route before and it's backfired on me a bit with a problematic rear hub design. That was with novatech hubs similar to the ones Hunt use.
What are the E13 Rims like.... I never thought about buying a used pair then putting some new Rims on.
I had good experiences with E13 rims - avoid their hubs though
No worries... I will have a look at those.