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glad you appear to be remaining positive and also glad they got the driver. Keep us updated


 
Posted : 16/04/2015 12:13 pm
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Severity of injuries means the police will press cps for maximum penalty.

£100 fine rather than £50 then?

Sending healing vibes.


 
Posted : 16/04/2015 12:14 pm
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That's great news on both counts. Here's to a swift recovery and harsh punishment.


 
Posted : 16/04/2015 12:17 pm
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Isn't it up to 6 months for hit and run?


 
Posted : 16/04/2015 12:25 pm
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Again, healing vibes dude! I hope the horrible ****er goes down. At least you're going to get some new shiny, that Propel was a couple of years old now wasn't it 😉 pretty sure you can't get those wheels anymore either so you'll have to be reimbursed with full carbon!


 
Posted : 16/04/2015 12:31 pm
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Good news and I hope you are healing well. Get a solicitor and sue him for damages inc personal injury and missing out on the events you'll now miss due to the time off recovering.


 
Posted : 16/04/2015 12:45 pm
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I'm ok. Better than I could have been. Chest drain out today, home tomorrow. Everything from the chest down is fine, so it's a question of wrist weight bearing and lung capacity. Top ribs don't seem to hurt as much as bottom ribs.

As for the propel. What a bike, I've loved it, raced it 30 times. It's comfortable, stiff and very fast. The wheels are a good compromise, aero and reasonably light, with alloy breaking. My only problem will be finding another Medium. They are very popular for a reason.

It is a perfect complement to the Defy, which is exactly why I bought it. And the next one must be red!!!


 
Posted : 16/04/2015 1:58 pm
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Finally, good news.


 
Posted : 16/04/2015 2:10 pm
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On the mend... A week at home taking it easy looking at replacement bikes. Discharged from MaxFac care on Thursday with my good looks still in tact(ish) and a slightly modified bite. Police statement this week, followed by fracture clinic and perhaps a little recovery level effort on the turbo. Located a very nice Propel SL in a German ebay store...

Nationals are four weeks today...


 
Posted : 26/04/2015 4:43 pm
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He'll claim you were a 6ft Badger or the sun was in his eyes or he swerved to avoid you..

Keep us updated. If any decent person hit someone they'd stop and be shaking like a shitting dog.


 
Posted : 26/04/2015 5:01 pm
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posted to find easier for the future


 
Posted : 28/04/2015 12:31 am
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Nationals are four weeks today...

Rocky theme music?

glad to hear you on the mend.


 
Posted : 28/04/2015 6:41 am
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Healing vibes sent....

Interesting to see the prosecution outcome on this, but get well soon.


 
Posted : 28/04/2015 6:55 am
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Mend up well.
If its any consolation I was very well £££ looked after when I was a victim of hit and run.
I remember thinking, its not the damaged body and bike, but all that hard work 'you' had put in.
Get well and come back strong.

Old pre disc Defy SL?.....nice


 
Posted : 28/04/2015 7:14 am
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Healing vibes. Sue him/her.


 
Posted : 28/04/2015 8:26 am
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[url= https://www.strava.com/activities/310982995 ]Back on the horse[/url] 😀

OK it was on a turbo, but nine minutes of Zone 5 action just to get the blood pumping in a one hour pyramid. Felt great. Of course I can't use my right hand for much, so hello TT bike and hello to the real [url= http://www.catrike.com/ ]darkside[/url] commuter 😈 . Bought the replacement Propel too. Much [url= http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-gb/bikes/model/propel.advanced.sl.2/19200/77266/ ]speedy whiteness[/url] but I don't think Marcel needs to worry too much.


 
Posted : 24/05/2015 8:46 pm
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8)


 
Posted : 24/05/2015 8:52 pm
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Woh!! How much was that?! I've alway reet wanted a go on a recumbent/recumbent trike!! Post up some strava rides so we can see how fast it is!!

When's the Propel here? Take it those are clinchers (my phone HATES the Giant site!) lovely looking bike!


 
Posted : 25/05/2015 1:08 pm
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And in other news...

This is just back from Surrey Police

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The reason I have it back is because the driver pleaded GUILTY to failing to stop at an accident and failing to report an accident. Sentencing is next week.

As for the damage, well the wheels are still true, the frame looks OK (some of the scratches are for paint sampling). The bars are of course a write off (loved those Ritchey Streem), but they must have saved my wrist further injury. The forks, well not the first pair to see snapped there.

Raced to no acclaim in the Hillingdon vets E1234 tonight on it s shiny white successor.


 
Posted : 02/09/2015 11:30 pm
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I always though knives should be blade down?


 
Posted : 02/09/2015 11:39 pm
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It must be weird seeing that bike again! Hope the racing went well 🙂


 
Posted : 03/09/2015 6:30 am
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Meh Kryton, not like the OP is unlucky,what's the worst that could happen?


 
Posted : 03/09/2015 6:30 am
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Severity of injuries means the police will press cps for maximum penalty

In my opinion that really shouldn't make any difference. A few scratches or left for dead - if they don't stop they don't know. They've shown themselve unfit to be driving a car - should be automatic loss of licence for hit and run.


 
Posted : 03/09/2015 7:09 am
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I always though knives should be blade down?

Only in the dishwasher 😉

I shall race the Surrey League Team Time Trial on these wheels on Saturday as they are: a) still round, b) aero enough, c) will take a 9 speed cassette, d) are clinchers and I can switch to 25c, e) are less fragile than my vintage Zipp 440s.

Will touch up the Giant logo where forensics took pain samples (to identify on the car) and look for some new Propel forks.

The full story does not cover the driver in glory (in fact there was considerable deceit involved), and I'm pleased with the outcome. And it were the stickers in the windscreen that dunnit 😀 Conclusive CCV proof that it was the car in the absence of clear number plate and driver ID.


 
Posted : 03/09/2015 7:11 am
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[i]"the driver pleaded GUILTY to failing to stop at an accident and failing to report an accident. Sentencing is next week."[/i]

I would have expected also either careless driving, dangerous driving or causing serious injury by careless driving. Was the driver charged with any of those?


 
Posted : 03/09/2015 7:17 am
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bit of gaffer tape on those forks and you'll be good to go 🙂


 
Posted : 03/09/2015 7:38 am
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Clever on the drivers part...
33% discount on fine for an early guilty plea. If the charge is only leaving the scene I'd be amazed if it was more than a couple of hundred pounds and a few points.


 
Posted : 03/09/2015 7:51 am
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Charges were leaving the scene and also failure to report. Community Service will be the sentence, plus points and a fine. That's in lieu of a custodial sentence. The driver will have a criminal record and has (apparently) lost their job.


 
Posted : 03/09/2015 8:05 am
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I should stop being cynical....

That's a bit more than a slap on the wrist.


 
Posted : 03/09/2015 8:08 am
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So no actual driving charge? Due to lack of evidence, or other reasons, do you know?


 
Posted : 03/09/2015 8:32 am
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I sense a new Bez article forming.....


 
Posted : 03/09/2015 8:34 am
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Sounds like a pretty good outcome all told, glad you are back riding

The full story does not cover the driver in glory (in fact there was considerable deceit involved)

Is the story published yet or just what you've been told - would be interested to read some of the official details.


 
Posted : 03/09/2015 8:46 am
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Well, well you have the bike back..

I'd be inclined to make a project out of it.. Try SS'ing it or changing the position radically..

Make it so much more different than the new shiny bike..

Glad it's working out for you now, horrible few months dispersing fast..

8)


 
Posted : 03/09/2015 9:30 am
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I'd be inclined to make a project out of it.

It's probably going to Teen 1 in lieu of his CAAD8 which I use for winter duties. The only damage to the frame is removal of the top coat behind the head tube. The logo damage was paint removal for forensics and I'm already good at touching that up after a race pile up! I'm chasing some new forks and bars at the moment from another written-off Propel frame.

Is the story published yet or just what you've been told

I'll give more details of the case after sentence next Wednesday.


 
Posted : 03/09/2015 11:16 am
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[i]"The only [/i][b]visible[/b][i] damage to the frame is removal of the top coat behind the head tube."[/i]

FTFY.

Obviously I don't know the exact manner of the collision, but if it was hit with enough force to do that to the bars and the fork…


 
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It's probably going to Teen 1 in lieu of his CAAD8 which I use for winter duties

Not wanting to pee on anybody's chips but doesn't the broken bike belong to the insurers?


 
Posted : 03/09/2015 12:38 pm
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I've seen worse than that for sale on Bikemagic.


 
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Not wanting to pee on anybody's chips but doesn't the broken bike belong to the insurers?

absolutely it does. And i guess they are really keen for a bag of broken bike bits to be knocking around their (virtual?) office.

Best approach is to advise them you have it back in pieces and get formal acknowledgement that they don't want it back.


 
Posted : 03/09/2015 1:27 pm
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160 hours community service (20 days of 8 hours)
20 hours community rehabilitation order
10 points (police wanted disqualification)

Offence was classed as most serious, and a custodial sentence was considered. Driver received 1/3 off for pleading guilty at the gate, but had aggregated the offence due to dishonesty and deceit. Failure to complete the community service will result in prison (maximum community service is 300 hours, so this is a significant punishment). Disqualification was allayed by mitigation - rural location, single parent, no public transport, elderly parents, etc...

Happy with the sentence. Failure to prosecute for driving without due care was due to conflicting witness statements and will be subject to a civil claim with lower burden of proof. Failure to stop and report were unequivocal and much more serious. The driver thought there was a good chance of prison and had packed a suitcase.

As for the driver - well she is a registered childminder of previous good character and a clean driving license for 20 years. She tried to cover up the dents with a magnetic sign and replace the smashed wing mirror, she then hid the car from obvious view, gave a no comment interview, then denied all involvement, claimed the dents were from an incident in a car park, and when the police called at the house, pushed her 4yo son away when he tried to tell the police about an accident (I suspect he was in the car and I do hope it hasn't affected him).

A press release may follow...

Well done to Surrey Collision Investigation Unit for a swift, comprehensive and ultimately successful investigation.

Case closed.

As for the bike, I have formal confirmation from my excellent insurance company (RSA) that I am free to do with it as I wish.


 
Posted : 09/09/2015 6:27 pm
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What an utter bitch. Got off semi light IMO. Are you tempted to ruin her business?


 
Posted : 09/09/2015 6:36 pm
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Glad to hear that you are OK, and happy with the sentence. Given other sentences, I reckon it's about right.

What an utter bitch. Got off semi light IMO. Are you tempted to ruin her business?

I'd suggest the internet pitchforks should only come out if the victim agrees?


 
Posted : 09/09/2015 6:50 pm
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I won't be sharpening any pitchforks just yet 😉 . She doesn't currently have a business to ruin.

Curiously, I will be riding past her road 10 times in a road race next month. Perhaps she could marshal as part of the order 😈


 
Posted : 09/09/2015 6:56 pm
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Well, well I'm not sure what to say other than you feel the sentence is right. For that I'm happy for you.

I'd now try to put it all behind me and ride on.. 8)


 
Posted : 09/09/2015 7:31 pm
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OP - glad you've recovered and you feel like you've got justice.

I don't get the mitigation though - after all the covering up and the lies you really have to ask if she's fit to hold a licence and in what way society gains from her continuing to drive.

I'd like to see some kind of penalty that where someone 'needs' to keep their licence for mitigating circumstances, they're limited to a supermini with a tiny engine - the kind of thing which reduces their feeling of power and status on the road and in being smaller and less powerful, makes it harder to do so much damage to other people...


 
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I left RSA last month after 5 years there, glad they saw you right!


 
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