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doesnt seem like he did much of anything wrong apart from leave a name and contact details.

From the linked article in the OP

The bike – an electric-assisted Specialized pedal cycle – was found abandoned on Approach Close in Stoke Newington

makes me think there may be more to this than 'man on e-bike runs over pedestrian'. Stolen bike maybe, that became<span style="font-size: 0.8rem;"> more serious than bike theft?</span>


 
Posted : 31/08/2018 10:59 am
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If the report I saw - “[t]he suspect was arrested at an address in Islington, north London, after he contacted police late on Wednesday. He was arrested on suspicion of causing bodily harm, failing to stop and failing to report a collision” is correct, then the last two charges suggest the ebike is being treated as a motor vehicle.


 
Posted : 31/08/2018 12:43 pm
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Has anyone else seen the CCTV footage of the collision on The [s]Scum[/s] Sun website?  Possibly available elsewhere, that's just where I saw it linked.

The guy doesn't appear to be moving particularly quickly and the pedestrian runs into the road in front of him.  Looks like half a second of him wobbling one way and then the other to try to go infront of and then behind her, and then the collision.


 
Posted : 31/08/2018 2:54 pm
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Takes aside the running off and later dumping the bike...... wouldn't a better headline have been 'Woman injured after running into road in front of bike'

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7136632/cctv-video-dalston-hit-run-bike-crash/


 
Posted : 31/08/2018 3:05 pm
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wouldn’t a better headline have been

Better in what way ?

From an editor's PoV the 'best headline' is the one causes most bile and hatred and creates people having a go at each other in the comments.

A more accurate and public good headline might have been "Woman critically ill after being knocked down jaywalking"


 
Posted : 31/08/2018 3:20 pm
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he was going faster the one the bike infront but that person appeared to be labouring a bit so it certainly wouldnt suggest he was doing more than the 15.5mph limit or whatever it is. If it hadnt been him it may have been a car or motorbike with the way she darted out, particularly as electric cars and motorbikes get more popular and I have certainly see someone on a normal road bike going much faster than that.

He also looked pretty bashed up himself and maybe he ended up leaving the bike somewhere as the front wheel was clearly buckled and he was probably feeling very crap if he had hit his head hard. Maybe he was trying to get away or maybe he was disorientated and thought she was okay or others were seeing to her. A lot of people probably don't realise you can seriously hurt/kill someone on a bike.

Hope all involved recover and there is no sinister back story (bike stolen etc). Hopefully it is a lesson to others to look properly before crossing and to stop and wait at the scene of an accident.


 
Posted : 31/08/2018 3:51 pm
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The law allows 24 hours to report an accident in a motor vehicle. Sadly the lady that collided with me did not. And nearly went to prison. Did the cyclist “turn himself in”, or report in the statutory allowed time after recovering from a concussion? Does the same rule apply for bicycles? Does being electric matter? Probably not.

As drlex alludes to above, the same does not apply to bicycles. There is no obligation to stop at the scene of an accident unless certain allegations are made - can't quite remember what they are. And in any case he did stop, and later went to the police anyway. It seems odd therefore that they are charging him with leaving the scene unless those allegations were made or the ebike makes a difference or - and I'm just speculating here - the police handling the case are ill informed cyclist bashing pricks.

Of course it's also possible that the ebike was chipped, in which case it's not an ebike, it's an unlicensed uninsured moped.


 
Posted : 31/08/2018 3:52 pm
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Jaywalking isn't a 'thing' in the UK (and quite right too) so it doesn't really make sense to use that term.

Edit: I think philjunior is right on that the 'leaving the scene' laws usually wouldn't apply to a cyclist.


 
Posted : 31/08/2018 3:57 pm
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Jaywalking isn’t a ‘thing’ in the UK (and quite right too) so it doesn’t really make sense to use that term.

I have to agree - whilst pedestrians stepping out without looking is inconsiderate and annoying, I'm glad that at least walking across roads isn't over-regulated in this country.


 
Posted : 31/08/2018 4:04 pm
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"is The man on the electric bike ploughed into the woman as she crossed the road when the lights were green"

Do they mean the traffic light was green or the crossing had a green man?

From that video it appears he is travelling at a normal speed in the middle of the road and she just walks out in front of him and he has no chance. Am I wrong in thinking she is in the wrong and he should be claiming damages from her?

I think the police have charged him due to the media coverage and cps will tell them there's no case and tell them to release him from caution.


 
Posted : 31/08/2018 9:02 pm
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Pretty much entirely her fault for attempting to run across a busy road, he seemed to try and avoid her and his speed did not seem excessive, certainly less than the motor traffic.


 
Posted : 31/08/2018 9:31 pm
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That video doesnt seem to support the original spin.  Given the traffic on the other side is still moving and the vague view of the lights remaining the same it does look like the collision was entirely her fault. Not an offence on her part, since as others say thankfully jaywalking isnt illegal, but insurance wise and legally unless his bike was modified to be illegal or nicked he should be in the clear.

If it had been a car hitting her wouldnt have made even the local news.


 
Posted : 31/08/2018 9:44 pm
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Looks like she ran across on a green light (for traffic, not her crossing?)... If so he did nothing wrong that I can see.

I wouldn't have walked off that said, then again I haven't just had my head bashed onto the road.

If stolen, that's another matter entirely.

As an rta though, they were both just really, really unlucky. 😟


 
Posted : 01/09/2018 12:50 am
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I’ve only seen 3 e-bikes on the roads this year and all of them have been “chipped”/modded to go faster.

How do you know? Did you ask the riders? Or just assume they were?


 
Posted : 01/09/2018 9:18 am
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How do you know? Did you ask the riders? Or just assume they were?

Probably because they sailed past him going up a hill at 25mph while waving


 
Posted : 01/09/2018 10:16 am
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And of course in other news, about 10 people lost their lives on British roads yesterday. And only last week a lorry squished another vulnerable road user on London’s roads.

I think Bristol had a rider go under a van,who was super lucky to have a doctor On the scene getting a coffe who got bystanders to move it and saved his life as it was choking him.


 
Posted : 01/09/2018 10:53 am
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Pedestrian at fault, imo....

Cyclist, motorbike or car driver would have had trouble avoiding her the way she ran out, let alone a bus or lorry.


 
Posted : 01/09/2018 11:42 am
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I think Bristol had a rider go under a van,who was super lucky to have a doctor On the scene getting a coffe who got bystanders to move it and saved his life as it was choking him.

After the doctor had been saved from choking by coffee did he help the cyclist? 🙂


 
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