[Closed] Help! I am a fat B^&&£%!!!!!

eat less, move more (loads less and loads more in reality) oh, and nae booze.

How overweight are you?

Stop being so greedy, eat less food. Stop eating meat

According to the Wii I am a beach ball with legs.

According to the doctor, I'm fat enough to die ( actually a little worried as elder bro is diabetic, so I want to miss that if I can)

I could lose 6 stone and become a whippet. That would be great!

i find weights help. build some muscle mass to up your metabolic rate.

make lunch your biggest meal, stop eating after 6:30pm, start seeing food as a means of getting carbs/proteins and fats into yer body and nothing else, don't eat unless you're hungry, only eat enough to stop the hunger, avoid diet drinks and sweetners like the plague, try to only lose one or two pounds a week

that'll do it

avoid diet drinks and sweetners like the plague

Why is that then? I have sweeteners in my coffee and drink diet dr pepper/pepsi with no ill effects.

Thanks, that sounds like sage advice.

It really is a war with my will power, and if I break it down to rudimentary specifics, it will help.

I hope

I wish this was going to be easy 🙁

Try something like [url= http://www.foodfocus.co.uk/ ]http://www.foodfocus.co.uk/[/url]. Work out how much weight you want to lose per week (1-2lb) and sort out a calorie level. Then stick to it. Weigh your food and allow yourself to have a more relaxed weekend (its always difficult to eat on a diet when you're at home I find).

I managed to lose two stone last year doing that. It is purely a case of calorie counting. It was hard, mind, but I feel so much better after doing it!

A great bloke (sadly no longer with us) used to say: "If you can't measure it, you can't manage it."

I'm fighting this too at the moment, 3 runs a week - 5km per run, biking on a Sunday 3hrs or more, spinning class once a week. In a month ive only lost 4lbs.

The wii says im Obese but I think that BMI is totally flawed. Im 5'11" and 14stone 10lbs and quite muscular/broad.

Ive cut out all pasties etc and eating porridge for breaky. Think im going to have to go deeper into a proper diet.

I think going to a more scientific level with this will help. But I'll be damned if I'll stoop so low as low fat yoghurt and weight watcher meals!

Weigh it....

Right, time for a cup of tea ( no milk) and smaller plates for dinner.

jamie - in a nut shell it's like this: eat sweetners, sweetners trick brain/taste buds into thinking a shit load of sugar is on the way, brain goes arrrghhh must protect blood'n'cells from ensuing increased acidity caused by too much sugar, brain protects body by sticking down a layer of fat around cells.

You're not moving enough. Double the length of your runs, 10k should take no more than 45 minutes, so it's not like it's a massive drain on your time, and do more exersize per week than not, so out of 7 days you need to be doing something at least 5 days of that. Mountain biking isn't that great for losing loads of weight in all honesty (it's generally too hard*)so get a road bike and pound out the kms set you sights on 100k to begin with

Don't skip meals, and [i]stop eating after 6:30pm[/i] is an old wives tale, just eat less, make a food diary and note down everything, then cut out the crap, but don't miss out meals, just eat less of it. No sweeties, no booze, no shite. In Western society we've been programmed to think we can't allow ourselves to feel hunger, well, MTFU and get used to it, it's how 90% of the world live, and they manage.

Then you'll loose some weight. (oh, and you can afford to loose more than a couple of pounds a week)

* by too hard, I mean you generally can't do enough of it, to loose weight you need to be doing loads of exersize, so unless your off road routes allow for 4-5 hours of steady rate work, then stick to the road

Out of your free time, you are doing 4 hours 45 minutes of exercise per week.

You need to increase this, without necessarily spending all your time on a bike. So, the sugestion of running is a good one. Also, consider how else you can factor in mini chunks of exertion into your day: ride towork, take the stairs not the lift, go for a brisk 30 minute walk at lunchtime.

On the food front, calorie counting is key. So long as you maintain a balanced diet, this really is a good way to do things. So, Weigh****chers or equivalents (Adam has recommended foodfocus) help massively. Also consider the benefits of a low GI (glycaemic indiex) diet. Combine that with proper portion control, and you'll be fine.

Now, the hard bit - we get bored, and food is a bit of a gap filler for many people these days (ever noticed how every shop, whether it's a department store selling clothes, a bookshop or even f---ing B&Q(!), has a cafe?). We all need to address our casual attitude to food.

So, what you need is a plan. If necessary find yourself someone who can advise you on both diet and exercise.

Good luck.

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jamie - in a nut shell it's like this: eat sweetners, sweetners trick brain/taste buds into thinking a shit load of sugar is on the way, brain goes arrrghhh must protect blood'n'cells from ensuing increased acidity caused by too much sugar, brain protects body by sticking down a layer of fat around cells.

Interesting. Any studies to back this up? Not having a dig, genuinely curious.

Try to lose weight with someone else, that way you'll have a bit of competition and peer pressure (but don't lose weight too quick -set a realistic weekly/monthly goal and try to hit it [not exceed it] and whoever closest wins the weeks incentive!). If you can't find a 'partner in crime' consider something like weight watchers (and ignore anyone who wants to try and take the pi$$) where you'll get support, but more importantly the peer pressure.

Good luck mate.

10k in 45 mins might be alright for you skinny types, that would kill biffers like me

Cheers All

Concerted effort initiated.

Checked out the foodfocus website, and I've got 1 year 2 months of gradual, reduction in blobbyness to go, by removing just 500 calories a day.

Right!

My doctor classed me as obese the ****er.

How about someone breaks your jaw 😉 think about it, it's a double whammy. A few days off work and weight loss in one. 🙂

Mmmmmm can anyone smell chips.

10k should take no more than 45 minutes

45 mins for someone who is 6 stone overweight and not used to the distance.

You trying to kill him?

I was tempted to take a trip to the Newcastle Hospital, as I heard from a mate that the Norvo virus is out and about in there. Desperate measures eh?

Doctors do seem to take great pleasure in being smug about life.

Gits.

[i]10k in 45 mins might be alright for you skinny types, that would kill biffers like me [/i]

Fine, take an hour, it's still just an hour out your day.

ooh I'd forgotten the lunchtime walks, that's a good tip

Jamie - plenty, self made millionaire spa-owning chum has just written a book about it - she knows her sh!t

Old Git Smell chips?

Tea will do do just fine, thanks for the offer.

Used to run XC in the last century, but even being good at it didn't make it fun!

Surely 250 Calories from a turbo session is the same as 250 calories from wearing my knees out and getting hairline fractures in my legs?

Running a bit isn't going to kill you. You know? Humans are designed to run, bio-mechanically that's what we do. Run a bit walk a bit run some more, then cut out the walking and just run, then take 20 secs off your time, and another and another...

make lunch your biggest meal, stop eating after 6:30pm

old wives tale that one

[i]Surely 250 Calories from a turbo session is the same as 250 calories from wearing my knees out and getting hairline fractures in my legs? [/i]

it'll take half the time to loose that by running, and you'll be outside, and it's not mind numbingly dull. I'd rather finish my life having worn out various bits of me than go with perfect knees and a beer gut...

therealhoops - Member

jamie - in a nut shell it's like this: eat sweetners, sweetners trick brain/taste buds into thinking a shit load of sugar is on the way, brain goes arrrghhh must protect blood'n'cells from ensuing increased acidity caused by too much sugar, brain protects body by sticking down a layer of fat around cells.

Utter pish. Thats not how your metabolism works at all

There are loads of basic mistakes there.

Taste buds do not have a role in sugar / insulin metabolism, Sugar does not increase acidity, you do not lay down a layer of fat around cells, the brain is not a art of the regulatory mechanisms.

Its really simple - eat less move more is the only way. A food diary is a useful tool. Most people who are overweight eat a lot more than they think. A can of coke is 7 teaspoonfuls of sugar for example

Given my situation is pretty much a carbon copy of Andy's, perhaps we should start a "Really Fat Club" - it's bloody annoying really, as I managed to give up the fags about 10 years ago by going cold turkey, but I really struggle to keep control of the amount of food that I shovel in my face.

I did go through a period a few years ago when I lost 2 stone, after I blew out my knee and was sent to a physio who basically told me I was a fat biffer and I needed to do my knees a favour and lose about 6 st. The pressure of going back to see him on a weekly basis for 3 months, and knowing the scales were waiting for me when I arrived, was a massive incentive to keep control of my calorie intake. Sadly, my knee improved, I was signed off the physio and my weight has gradually crept back up.

If you can lose 6 stone chances are you are a touch on the heavy side for running, you will knacker your knees and then where will you be ? Long walks, lunchtime walks, walk to work until you aren't carrying too much weight.

Get a road bike, long steady miles, build up to hilly rides.

Eat lots of raw carrots, diet coke worked for me. Drink LOTS of water it keeps you full, you can mistake dehydrated for hungry.

And you have to want to, have a look at why you eat so much, what are your triggers ? Do you watch loads of TV ? (makes me want to eat for some reason, probably subliminal messages from the aliens)

This is experience talking - I went from what I think was around 7 stone 2 to 15 stone (I think in metric) to bang on 8 to a more healthy weight these days, not got on the scales just diet a bit when my fave jeans get a bit tight.

Some folk swear by hypnotherapy, other folk go for the powder sachest diets, none of these seem like long term solutions, which is what you really want.

Good luck, and don't be tempted by a quick fix, it's about lifestyle change.

Jamie - plenty, self made millionaire spa-owning chum has just written a book about it - she knows her sh!t

Ok, apart from that one source. Anything online? As it just does not sound right to me.

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therealhoops - Member
jamie - in a nut shell it's like this: eat sweetners, sweetners trick brain/taste buds into thinking a shit load of sugar is on the way, brain goes arrrghhh must protect blood'n'cells from ensuing increased acidity caused by too much sugar, brain protects body by sticking down a layer of fat around cells.

Interesting. Any studies to back this up? Not having a dig, genuinely curious.

Jamie, if you search you'll find plenty of stuff regarding the negative aspects of sweetners. In the U.S. drinks/products containing saccharin for example carry health warnings in a similar vein to fags & booze over here.

Some have been linked with cancer, some with inducing hunger & many other reactions including that stated by 'hoops earlier.

There was plenty of bad press around when I was working over there but that was 10/12 years ago.

brain protects body by sticking down a layer of fat around cells.

using magic pixies presumably ? Sheer fantasy!

I'm worse the the O.P. and became mentally aware I am eating too much and my GF called me fatty which pretty much pi55ed me off. 😀

Lost 8kg from xmas and just by eating healthy and not loads or junk.

If you have time to ride then you're laughing really and you should lose a fair bit after 12 weeks.

Get a reality check and go for your goals. You can still eat nice things but watch your portions, retrain your stomach and train for longer periods. Hell use smaller plates and stop being in denial and look after your body.

You watch who you're calling Fatty!

@ Nobby

There seems to be a lot of misinformation about sweeteners tho, for example the law requiring saccharin products to carry health warning labels was removed in 2000.

I'm 5' 11" and bubbling under 200lbs and my BMI indicates I'm bordering on obese and while I'm certainly not a skinny rake, I'm a million miles from obese. Personally I feel like I'm carrying an extra stone over where I'd like to be but if I wanted to be in the middle of the acceptable BMI range I'd need to lose about 3 stone 😕

I carefully watch what I eat, cycle over an hour each day with at least one two hour night ride during the week and a 2-3 hour ride at the weekend and I don't shift a single pound in weight. Bizzare.

I found running a bit helped shift weight much quicker than biking. I'd not run any distance for years but found the [url= http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/2_3/181.shtml ]Couch Potato to 5k Programme[/url] which got me going. Continuing to build on that as really did make things simple and relatively pain free.

Sweeteners have health risks for sure. Just they do not do what was claimed.

@ Jamie. I know it's not a legal requirement these days but recall that it still is an FDA recommendation and several States still uphold it.

So the Yanks are stuck between carcinogenic sweeteners and high fructose corn syrup. Tough break.

Explains a lot though doesn't it? 😉

Must say I'm no expert on these matters but there does seem to be some odd advice creeping out in here.

45 minutes for a 10k is a bit disingenuous as there are quite fit people out there that just happen to be slow runners. It might feel easy and comfortable for you but that doesn't mean it will be the same for everyone.

The general wisdom on these things suggests that your exercise levels need to be different between aerobic and fat burn. Personally I'm not quite sure how it works but less intense exercise is seen as better for burning fat off. Some of the gyms around our way are now offering these so called metabolism checks where they measure your metabolism and propose an exercise programme that makes your training more effective. I am a tad sceptical about this myself although there's at least one person in my gym who claims that a modified exercise programme that consisted of more walking than running enabled her to take several minutes off her 10k time (and she was quite fit to start with).

The abiding rule is eat less than you burn is the only guaranteed way to lose weight and watch the type of stuff you eat. Some foods may have equivalent calorie counts but may contain more fats which sit on your body and as you get older seem to refuse to budge anywhere. Don't neglect core / ab training as well to tighten and tone those muscle groups. And the hardest one of all is to reduce the portion sizes. My biggest downfall as, like yourself, I am rather too partial to my food it is an exercise in willpower to reduce the portion size. Do it for long enough though and it will become part of your lifestyle and thus easier to maintain going forward as the last thing you want to do is put in a huge effort to lose the weight only to put it straight back on again once you reach your target weight.

Not sure there's very much in there to help, but there you go.