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Weight seems similar and they both come in the length I need give or take a few mm
Anything but looks between them?
Posted : 03/07/2013 9:26 pm
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Ive got the havoc on my five. Its a solid lump of a stem if thats what you need?
Posted : 03/07/2013 9:28 pm
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Ive got the Haven on my bike. Its not such such a solid lump of stem, but still stiff as hell and lighter (a bit as long as you don't compare with the 35mm Havoc.
Posted : 03/07/2013 10:18 pm
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Thanks both
Posted : 04/07/2013 10:07 am