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Singular kickstart the new Puffin fat bike.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1471361938/singular-puffin-fatbike


 
Posted : 16/09/2013 10:29 pm
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I'm £400 short 🙁


 
Posted : 16/09/2013 10:46 pm
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Only 7 backers so far, not looking positive 🙁


 
Posted : 17/09/2013 12:39 pm
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long time to go though and was only launched last night


 
Posted : 17/09/2013 1:10 pm
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Seven backers of which probably 6 have bought frames it seems. Good start.

(I fancy a fattie but need a go on one first).

Good luck Sam, if anyone can do this he can.


 
Posted : 17/09/2013 1:17 pm
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I been seen puffin' on a Singular.

Those flat section are murder on a SS.


 
Posted : 17/09/2013 1:20 pm
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He only needs to sell 44 more to get the money. Its not that much really is it. I'm not in the market but hopefully putting it on here will help him out a little.


 
Posted : 17/09/2013 1:25 pm
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Are Singular planning a Krampus-a-like? Although a fat bike really appeals for no practical reasons whatsoever I think a 29+ would be a better UK bike (for me). I'd certainly swap my Swift for one!


 
Posted : 17/09/2013 1:48 pm
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New swift fork will handle 29+ tyres. Appears to be more clearance at the back too with the direct mount mech.


 
Posted : 17/09/2013 3:15 pm
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Nice that... I feel a pledge coming on... 😉


 
Posted : 17/09/2013 3:18 pm
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Plus one on the Krampus style bike. I've only read the review in the mag but I'm thinking that a design using the 29x3.00 tyres in a shorter, more compact package would have a lot going for it.


 
Posted : 17/09/2013 3:26 pm
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A puffin, singular, earlier this month:

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Posted : 17/09/2013 4:15 pm
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It's goose stepping!

Is it a Nazi puffin?


 
Posted : 17/09/2013 4:17 pm
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What would it cost to build one up with OK components? Another 800?


 
Posted : 17/09/2013 5:23 pm
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Posted : 17/09/2013 5:33 pm
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Well, 10 backers and 17% of the goal in less than 24 hours basically off the back of a single Facebook post - I'm pretty good with that. Loads of press releases have gone out today so I hope that I will get to the goal yet. Of course - the more the merrier 🙂

The bikes are really going to be great though, I'm very pleased with the protos in terms of ride and I'm confident the changes in store are going to make them the best riding steel fat bike bar none. If mattjg or anyone else would like a go on a proto then just let me know - I have them located in Berkhamsted, Brighton, Brecon, Kingston (upon Thames) and Lincoln (Nebraska) and one more doing the rounds of a few of my dealers.

For Shackleton et.al., yes a full 29+ is on the drawing board and will likely be the next prokect to see the light of day after this one.

Thanks for the support!

Sam


 
Posted : 17/09/2013 5:34 pm
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Mattjg, close but probably doable. I do have a line on some reasonably priced F135 and R170 hubs ex Taiwan so if the project is successful that could also be a possibility to help keep down cost. That said, the On One wheels and tyres can be had for about £400, the main additional cost then is cranks. The SRAM X5 fat cranks will be the cheapest option at about £130, so depending on the depth of your parts bin £800 total in parts should be manageable.


 
Posted : 17/09/2013 5:41 pm
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If you could supply a rolling chassis (frame/fork/wheels and maybe cranks) at a reasonable price (less than buying separate) then I'd be much more inclined to consider it.

The cost of wheels for fatbikes and 29+ at the moment is prohibitive if you buy them as parts or premade but on-one basically give them to you for free if you buy frame, fork and tyres. I suspect they will sell a lot more fatbikes in the UK than any other manufacturer purely because of this.


 
Posted : 17/09/2013 11:52 pm
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AH good, another temptation to resist, cheers for that!


 
Posted : 18/09/2013 12:18 am
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ive eaten a puffin or 2 in my time. Quite tasty.


 
Posted : 18/09/2013 5:40 am
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[i]AH good, another temptation to resist[/i]

Quite.

Been looking at fatty 'rolling chassis' prices at on-one and thinking "well if I bought that I could sell the frame on and get the wheels and tyres 'cheap'".

Does seem odd that o-o don't include the cranks as they're fatty specific.


 
Posted : 18/09/2013 7:50 am
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Yes, rolling chassis would be the aim - or at least wheels and headset, tyres could be more tricky.


 
Posted : 18/09/2013 8:14 am
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Just wondering - does anyone make an adapter to allow fat bikes to be carried on a roof rack?

I imagine that the tyres would be way too wide to allow the to be transported on a normal roof mounted rack.


 
Posted : 18/09/2013 9:03 am
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Upto 16 frames sold now & nearly 7k pledged, looks as though they'll make it. Almost tempted myself even though I have a Fatty already #backingbritain sort of 🙂


 
Posted : 18/09/2013 9:04 am
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@birney29

Just wondering - does anyone make an adapter to allow fat bikes to be carried on a roof rack?

I imagine that the tyres would be way too wide to allow the to be transported on a normal roof mounted rack.

Yes they are too wide

I attached some pieces of guttering with slots cut to my rack and then put a strap through the guttering and round the tyres to secure it.

@beerbiker Have you not heard of n+1? 😀


 
Posted : 18/09/2013 9:09 am
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drofluf - that's a stormer of an idea. Like it.


 
Posted : 18/09/2013 9:11 am
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Well, I'm in, too tempting to resist. Money doesn't come out for a month, so doesn't really count as expenditure. 🙂

Be ableto get shot of the hateful Peace 29er as a hacking bike.


 
Posted : 18/09/2013 9:22 am
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Posted : 18/09/2013 9:59 am
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Hmmm. I've got an FS, a CX, an SS, I don't have a geared hardtail and this might be sufficiently niche to override any objections...

might arrange a fatbike test ride I think...


 
Posted : 18/09/2013 10:54 am
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@birney29

drofluf - that's a stormer of an idea. Like it.

Let me know if you want pictures


 
Posted : 18/09/2013 11:24 am
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In case more riding photos are required to get you to put your hand in your wallet, my first impressions of the Puffin:

[url= http://www.aidanharding.com/2013/08/singular-puffin-first-impressions/ ]http://www.aidanharding.com/2013/08/singular-puffin-first-impressions/[/url]

Since then, I've ridden it on Gower and in Brecon. The rocks in Brecon (as pictured on the STW article) were the biggest eye-opener for me. It absolutely storms that kind of stuff. Floats, manuals, and flies down them. Climbs up even the most stupid lines.


 
Posted : 18/09/2013 11:25 am
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Oh, yeah and for carrying fat bikes, I have a towbar-mounted Thule rack. The fat tyres fit perfectly between the two slots for normal bikes, one of the clamps goes onto the frame, then bungies around the wheels.

Drain pipe on the roof rack is what I've seen a number of people use in Alaska, too.


 
Posted : 18/09/2013 11:27 am
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Can't help thinking a couple of manufacturers should get heads together and run a couple of fat bike demo days, might help in converting some of the fat-curious to fat-customers.

@sam ta re prototype, Brighton and Kingston are both accessible to myself and my subliminal prompting fat-curious alter-ego cheezpleez, will chat and maybe give you a call. We're both medium-sized riders.

Any probability of H4TH Dorking getting one in? That's our home turf.


 
Posted : 18/09/2013 11:49 am
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Note to self, go give the 'new' Swinley a try! (From Aidan's site, hope the link's OK Aidan).

[img] :large[/img]


 
Posted : 18/09/2013 11:52 am
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Matt - there is supposed to be some sort of mass fat demo going on at the [url= https://www.alpkit.com/bigshakeout ]Aplkit Big Shakeout[/url] next weekend. There should be a puffin or two there.

I would happily send one down to HFTH for a couple of weeks but they've not expressed any interest, I ought to get in touch with them. Maybe if you pester them from your side and I do so from mine we might have some luck 🙂


 
Posted : 18/09/2013 11:54 am
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See..... that 'new' Swinley section is genuinely soooooooo goood, I genuinely thought that was a photo of Coed y Brenin before reading the caption..


 
Posted : 18/09/2013 12:04 pm
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Is it just me or does the fork/frame interface look pretty ungainly? Maybe partly it's the tapering fork legs... (someone agree with me, it'll help me not buy one!)


 
Posted : 18/09/2013 12:15 pm
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WHatsize is the prototype in the pics?


 
Posted : 18/09/2013 12:25 pm
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Is it just me or does the fork/frame interface look pretty ungainly? Maybe partly it's the tapering fork legs... (someone agree with me, it'll help me not buy one!)

It does in the proto but I think it looks spot on in the render.

Sorry.


 
Posted : 18/09/2013 12:31 pm
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WHatsize is the prototype in the pics?

I'm guessing it's a Large as the initial plan was, IIRC, to only make one size


 
Posted : 18/09/2013 12:41 pm
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Is it just me or does the fork/frame interface look pretty ungainly? Maybe partly it's the tapering fork legs... (someone agree with me, it'll help me not buy one!)

It does in the proto but I think it looks spot on in the render.

The proto was straight 1 1/8" steerer in straight 44 ID headtube with thinner fork blades. Production frames will be tapered steerer in tapered head tube with larger blades - it should both look and ride significantly better.

What size is the prototype in the pics?

Yes - it's a large


 
Posted : 18/09/2013 1:07 pm
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I think Singular Salad Swerver has a better catch to it than puffin!


 
Posted : 18/09/2013 1:12 pm
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Sam, send one up to me & I'll ride it at the fat bike gathering in Wales a week on Saturday 😉


 
Posted : 18/09/2013 1:29 pm
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Having read the article this morning whilst dreading the return of a cold, dark and damp February, i decided that it'd be a nice way of supporting a great small British brand and give myself something nice to look forward too

It also gives me a good reason to beg, borrow & steal some other FB specific items over the next 5 months 🙂

Can't wait! 🙂


 
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Oh yes I've heard of n + 1 but in my case it means n + 2 coz www.beerbabe.co.uk always wants another one to !

Re Fat Bike racks, we use a Thule 3 bike rack, I have removed the 1st & 3rd sliding bike mounts & used short lengths of 4inch guttering bolted in place so easily removed. We have even used the rack with 2 Fattys & a 29er mounted inbetween. Been using it for 9 months & it works just fine even in Europe with the Fattys.


 
Posted : 18/09/2013 1:56 pm
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