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After years away from the fun and scariness of HT's Ive decided that the pain of proper full suss maintenance just isnt for me so I want a new frame to build up

The thing is theres loads of choice and I cant decide

All I know is that I will be sticking a 130-140mm fork on it and going for a light-ish XC build
Im not doing the Alps and Im too chicken for mahoosive drops these days 🙂

So guys and gals give me your best pub talk prejudice and flannel
[b]Six words max only per bike please[/b]
And if anyone actually knows what I should buy all the better LMAO

Soul (looks perfect)
Ragley's (look like tractors - sorry Brant)
Hummer
456 (love the Ti but prob more hardcore then I need)
Chameleon

Etc etc etc


 
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i just sold a marin rocky ridge frame but id heartily recommend one. it felt almost identical geo wise to my old chameleon but had a bit more give at the back and no faffy ebb/slidey dropout.

i love my sovereign, with 130/140 fork it has near perfect trail geo IMO, 68 h/a, decent reach etc but is built to handle far more. its not the lightest frame though so could well be overkill really.


 
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If you`re not doing massive drops and want lightweight do you really need 130-140mm forks........?


 
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You know you need a Soul (6 words) 🙂


 
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i have a ti456 and a chameleon

chameleon - fun, quick, confidence inspiring, direct, (a tad) harsh
ti456 - fun, quick, confidence inspiring, direct, forgiving


 
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lol i ignored the rules, beer allows me to do this: [b]FACT[/b]


 
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I have a Chameleon would highly recommend one, done 60mile races to a week downhilling in the alps... wouldn't say that getting 140mm forks is pointless buuuuut, I have uturn pikes and the bike handles better at 120mm (bike is warrentied up to 150mm)... so would suggest getting 120mm reba's... over heavier 140mm ones.


 
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connect to the trail
real biking
hone those skills


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 9:37 pm
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Cove stiffee stunning perfect a quailty ride


 
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Orange P7 (rides perfect) - 4 words


 
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genesis alptitude- mine might be for sale


 
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Chameleon. Pay attention you c@*t. Chameleon. 😉


 
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For general riding I run 120mm maxle reba's on my 456Ti, great ride, but just try a steel 456 to see how it goes - cheap enough.


 
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130-140mm and lightish XC????

If you want 130-140mm, from your list:

2008 Hummer - Best bike I've owned (Until)
2010 Hummer - Blows the 08 away

If 120mm will do - Genesis Altitude - very impressive, somewhere between above 2

Custom? - Curtis


 
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If you're running 130-140 forks up front, I reckon you need a steel frame (sweeping enough?!)

Soul
Whyte 19 steel (can you this as a frame? - 6 words)
Altitude


 
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Kinesis maxlight xc120 (Probably my most posted 3 words)


 
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Simple, anything made by dialled bikes 😉


 
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What wrong with Pace? I have a rc303 and love it.


 
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Cove Stiffee - Childish name: Childish grin!


 
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Bobster
2010 Hummer really that much better? I thought it was pretty much the same geometry, only asking as I'm tempted


 
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Soul- trail perfection, doesn't come cheap 😉


 
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P7, not light but good. [Blank]


 
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What about that new steel pace number?


 
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Go and ride them and see which you prefer the feel of. Then go and buy a Prince Albert.

More than 6 words but who cares.


 
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All good advice
Particularly those who keep to the 6 word rule LOL

Current dilemmas:

There are too many choices to test ride them all

Why is a Soda over £1000 more than a Soul?

Whats the difference between all those Ragleys?

How badly do I want a Lynskey?

OT: Peak or Cannock tomorrow 🙂 ??


 
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Ragley's (look like tractors - sorry Brant)

don't agree.

and ride like a dream


 
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Impulse buy then
It's made of unobtanium
about 457 Brant brain cells
Not badly enough
Macc/Three Shires Head area of Peak (ever been?)

Go for steel (853 is worth it), 100-120mm corrected and stick an adj travel fork on (sounds like you'll rarely need 130mm). Pick a nice colour.


 
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Whyte 19: Because you've balls like a horse (6 words)


 
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mwleeds, he is talking the truth (there you go 6 words)


 
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456-Best bike I ever had

A


 
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Whyte 19 Cos if you dont your gay


 
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Where is the mandatory Inbred reccomendation?


 
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UM someone said 456 while I was typing thats close enough!


 
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ride a bike soon


 
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"Where is the mandatory Inbred reccomendation? "

"Not strong enough any more- official" 😉


 
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Prince Albert biking royalty


 
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[url= http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=36796 ]i know i'd sure like one[/url]


 
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