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RADON SWOOP. Think they have a new 29er 170 mm Swoop 2019.

This could turn out to be the hardest-hitting enduro 29er of the lot (maybe excluding Geometrons & Poles), I hope to find out relatively soon as my mate's ordered one.

I loved the 650b Swoop, had a beautifully balanced ride feel and good geometry. Just needed bigger wheels and longer rear - which the new one addresses.


 
Posted : 04/01/2019 2:28 pm
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I loved the 650b Swoop, had a beautifully balanced ride feel and good geometry. Just needed bigger wheels and longer rear – which the new one addresses.

Eldest_oab has a Slide 150 and I would agree - lovely balanced bike, light for the travel, well made. Proper nippy. A new 29" long n low will make it a proper weapon.


 
Posted : 04/01/2019 3:23 pm
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checked the price tag: Radon 170 Swoop 8.0 is 2,4 k

High end swoop 10.0 is roughly 1,1 k more - compared with the Swoop 8.0

Many neat, new bikes available right now... (but 170 mm travel is an total overkill for me)


 
Posted : 04/01/2019 3:39 pm
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Radons new Slide Trail is 150/140. My shortlist is either that in 29 or Spectral 160/150 in 275.

Murmurs that this years Strive will be 170/160 29er, too much for me as well i think.


 
Posted : 05/01/2019 11:15 am
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Murmurs that this years Strive will be 170/160 29er

Will there be a new Strive 2019 frame? Expected that as well - but can't find anything about a "new Strive". Bike pals which have the "old" aluminium Strive are quite happy with them. But geo might be a bit outdated? Maybe not outdated...- but not really long & slack.. (which is not always an advantage).


 
Posted : 05/01/2019 2:07 pm
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I'll try to check the new fork settings today. I'll also try to run the rebound a little faster, I suspect the form is not recovering fast enough from strikes and keep reading as the pros run rebound quite fast (grain of salt here).

If this doesn't work, then I might try the reverse, going back to 2 tokens and up pressure to mid 80s. This based on the theory I read sometimes that firmer pressure can keep the fork in the softer travel section and actually make it feel plusher.

If nothing of this works, then a damper upgrade might be on the table. 200 euros, outch.....

Those new Radon Swoops 29 look sweet. The right travel, crazy value and the short seat tubes allow to select size based on reach (would go XL straight away). Quite tempting to get the cheapest model, 2500€ and swap the better bits I have on mine.
But:
- on the slackest setting the BB is crazy low
- no metric shock...
- hard to find any info or feedback on them

Edit: about the possible new Strive, knowing Canyon it's likely to have quite conservative geo


 
Posted : 05/01/2019 2:39 pm
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Don't get hung up on the metric shock thing, I'd prefer 215x63 myself - tons of cheap used options out there.

The 650b swoop was a great package. Rode superbly and impressive build quality.

It's not likely to be a lively, nimble single-track rocket though!


 
Posted : 05/01/2019 5:10 pm
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I would fear by the time I would need a new shock the non metric stuff would be dry. Quite an odd move on their side, likely to save on tooling and jigs.

Not looking to have a nimble single-track rocket, just a bike capable to winch itself up mountains at it's own pace and then bomb downhill


 
Posted : 05/01/2019 9:05 pm
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