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Riding in my local woods got stopped by a dog walker telling me "If I want to ride that i have to stay on the hardpark paths as bikes are ruining the woods and ripping up the paths". I pointed out that the worst damage to the paths was caused by the horses and by people insiting on walking on the paths which have really poor drainage.
I then asked her if she was planning on picking up her dog poo as the path from the car park is covered in it and there is usually a pile of carrier bags full of poo left at the entrance and that is what is actually ruining the woods for most people. According to her it was okay as someone came and collected all those up anyway. the conversation ended with her walking off whilst telling me she hoped I fell of my bike.
I did not fall off but did get dog poo on my tire!!!!!
You should have shit in a bag and left it on hanging off her wing mirror.
Last time a dog walker tried that with me I just bent down to the dog (lovely westie) and made a fuss of it while saying "I feel sorry for you having such a miserable owner, you deserve much better."
The conversation ended there.
I don't bother talking to them anymore, just keep on riding and enjoying the trail. With all these booby traps and conflicts that keep happening I think it's only a matter of time before one of them gets a proper good beating.
The last one I spoke to I used the cheekytrails.co.uk response to "this is a footpath" of "yes, it's silly isn't it?".
She didn't think it was silly, saying that we were causing masses of erosion in the woods and scaring ground nesting birds. I had a nice, really level headed chat with her about how none of the research suggests we are the cause of the problem, how dog walkers are far scarier for wildlife etc. and she generally agreed.
It was really constructive and enlightening. And her dogs were really nice.
Dog walkers on the Malverns do seem more accepting that bikes will be up there. Most seem friendly and, if their dog is loose, will call it back or try and keep it out of the way. We do slow right down too so that probably helps, a lot.
And her [s]dogs[/s] puppies were really nice.
Hopefully FTFY ๐
To counter balance it i met a really nice dog walker about 30 minutes later and we talked about Mud tires.
I have only ever had cross words a handful of times with (dog) walkers in all the years I've been cycling. This is comphrensively dwarfed by all the hellos, smiles or even actual pleasant conversations I've had with the other trail users I've encountered. I wouldn't even engage with someone who was looking for an argument these days.
I do like the idea above of ignoring the owner & talking to the dog though! (even though it is [i]extremely[/i] passive-aggressive & not really my style!)
In my local-ish woods I only get grief off the dog walkers who deliberately and knowingly walk on the purpose built designated mtb trails ๐
munrobiker - MemberThe last one I spoke to I used the cheekytrails.co.uk response to "this is a footpath" of "yes, it's silly isn't it?".
ferrals - MemberIn my local-ish woods I only get grief off the dog walkers who deliberately and knowingly walk on the purpose built designated mtb trails
There is some irony in this somewhere.
I met a woman walking a dog and pushing a pram. I glanced at the baby in the pram and realised it was another identical dog. Afterwards I kept thinking of witty things I could have said, like: "Madam, I may be a little short-sighted but I'll swear your baby looks too hairy..." or something.
Last time a dog walker tried that with me I just bent down to the dog (lovely westie) and made a fuss of it while saying "I feel sorry for you having such a miserable owner, you deserve much better."
I like that.
I agree that the majority of dog walkers are fine. In the odd instance that a dog walker has said something to me I have adopted a couple of approaches - both ended the conversation.
One was with a woman who had her dog off the lead and wasn't really keeping an eye on it. I just accused her of deliberately letting the dog go where it wanted to do its business so she could deny seeing it and not have to pick it up. She looked embarrassed and shuffled away.
Another was a gruff, aggressive bloke - he had his arm in a sling and support type thing. I merely remarked with a bit of emphasis how difficult it must be to clean up after a dog with only one hand. Again, it seems he didn't want to explore that topic further.
I find that exposing blatant hypocrisy on the part of people who try to be holier than thou usually does the trick.
Some people are just cross. I've met some really miserable cyclists too
Last time a dog walker tried that with me I just bent down to the dog (lovely westie) and made a fuss of it while saying "I feel sorry for you having such a miserable owner, you deserve much better."The conversation ended there.
That's excellent, I'm going to try to remember that for next time
Some people are just cross. I've met some really miserable cyclists too
If that was in the New Forest it was probably be me.
Not really sure of the relevance that the person was walking a dog.
I have been moaned at by dog walkers, ramblers, horse riders, other riders - I don't discriminate on who I annoy.
As above, the vast majority of people I meet are friendly. It's a few years now since I had an 'encounter' in the woods with an enraged dog walker. I let him rant till he ran out of steam then pointed out we were on a bridleway....
I found the answer to this; ride a fat bike, then just as they're about to rant, they go oooo big wheels, we talk about built for snow / sand, etc. We depart happy...........unfortunately it doesn't work with any other bike including 27+
The ones that make me really happy are the ones who have loose dogs and see you coming, but do nothing until you are right on top of them and belatedly say "Come on Tiddles and Widdles, get out of the way".
Which the dogs don't, possibly because all they hear is: " Mlah mlah Tiddles mleh fnerr Widdles, gmerr owd owda weearghh".
Then of course if I run straight over their little friends, it's all my fault apparently.
Pook - Member
> http://www.peakdistrictmtb.org/index.php/81-you-re-just-a-nuisance
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Good story.
I always make an effort to give way to other trail users be it a bridleway or cheeky.
At the end of the day if we all respect the environment, the trails and each other everybody wins.
My favourite recent one was:
"You should learn to read a map...you shouldn't be riding here, it's not a bridleway...!"
"There's good news and bad news...the good news is you're right, I shouldn't be riding here. The bad news is it isn't a footpath either. Check your map when you get home..."
I had the usual shout of "she's alright" as a small-medium off-lead dog came flying towards me the other day, to which the terse response was "not if I run over her".
On foot when being jumped at, in response to some banal 'harmless' comment is "does it do dry cleaning".
Don't get me started on the professional dog walkers....
I must be doing something wrong, most of the dog walkers round here are happy bunch.
As for roadies...
Dog walkers are the 2nd most annoying thing I encounter on my rides. 1st place obviously goes to motor vehicles.
i just shrug my shoulders and pretend im lost. frickin am half the time.
Mlah mlah Tiddles mleh fnerr Widdles, gmerr owd owda weearghh
Who knew Cthulhu was a dog lover? 
grannyjone - Member - Quote
Dog walkers are the 2nd most annoying thing I encounter on my rides. 1st place obviously goes to [s]motor vehicles[/s] my brakes.
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I have been bitten twice (badly) by dogs whilst running on fairly remote trails, with little or no apology or reaction from the dog owners.
I am yet to be bitten by a mountain biker.
Haven't had an angry confrontation for ages to be honest. There's always those who won't accept any amount of reasoning, to which I reply "I ride where I damn well please and I have no consideration for anyone except myself"
Sometimes you've got to get in early with their own objections.There's always those who won't accept any amount of reasoning,
Old man to me, just stopped by the bank near the top of Guildford high street years ago: "Do you know this is a one way street?"
Me: Yes.
Him: Then why were you cycling the wrong way down it?
Me: Because I'm lazy and irresponsible?
Him: ...
Actual answer was: because I'm careful, considerate and efficient and I can't see a policeman, but it would have resulted in a much longer conversation, and wouldn't have been as funny.
I generally think anyone that wants to tell me their views without invite is a bellend, this certainly is a general life view I have irrespective of if I'm cycling or not. Luckily a total lack of engagement and moving away from such an individual seems to resolve such matters. Sometimes angry people require slightly different handling, but rarely. I have a pretty affable approach to life, and can't recall a need to swear at anyone in about the last 15 years.
Is she had been in anyway polite to me I would of just agreed i thought nothing of it.
Had a stroppy dog walker once who said his dogs eggs were bio-degradable when I asked him to pick it up in the car park, when he walked off I picked it with a nice big leaf and stuck it smack in the middle of his windscreen. Immature or what!!!!
I just bent down to the dog (lovely westie) and made a fuss of it
I'd be careful you don't get a kick in the face off the owner!
I just pretend I'm east European and don't understand English that usually does it ๐ the adult babies love it their little faces go purple.
There's a lot of angry people in this country. Apparently the UK is wonderful, everyone's living the dream and should be bloody grateful, oh and we have one of the most tolerant societies according to those who cause all the division. All seems very contradictory doesn't it, hmmmmmm who knew.
Let's form an action group, badger the council and make up loads of bullshit about injuries from dog attacks costing the NHS millions, not to mention the deaths. Let's all play silly buggers the most popular British pass time and let the things that really matter stay the same.
Funny isn't it how the dog walkers, drivers, horsey riders, walkers want it all for themselves yet I've never heard people who like biking respond in kind.
I'll happily engage in conversation if the dog is on a lead.
Off a lead and twice recently I've had a go after dogs 'followed' sheep and Lambs.
I am yet to be bitten by a mountain biker.
Depends if we've run out of Haribo......
Out on Sunday afternoon and this lady with a collection of toy dogs informed me that a dog was following me. I said it's ok, he's my dog. She looked very puzzled and said "but your on a bike". I laughed and rode away with my dog woofing because we had stopped.
My favourite reply when being told 'You shouldn't be riding here'
'Yeah I know,I killed someone down here last week'
I find the presence of a dog and grumpy cockwomblery to be mutually exclusive.
Was out riding the other week and one of my mates still had his plate on from London to Brighton offroad. A miserable looking walker who looked like the type to normally have a moan clapped and said well done. Pissed ourselves laughing but could be onto something with the fake charity ride thing.
The latest one I had, from an old miserable walker with his mate, was "Where are you going?" "This is a public footpath!"
Last year, right on xmas day, a dog ran from its owner on a paved path...
I managed to save the dog but i got my elbow broken and had to wear a cast for 3 weeks ruining all my holiday plans ๐
But I love dogs and i didn't blame the owner nor asked for any refund, I had a dog myself and I know this things can happen.
Had a stroppy dog walker once who said his dogs eggs were bio-degradable when I asked him to pick it up in the car park, when he walked off I picked it with a nice big leaf and stuck it smack in the middle of his windscreen
missed a trick by not smearing it on the underside of the door handles...
done this to a mate once, albeit with tomato ketchup.
