[Closed] Go with the Flow: Leith Hill video

I would just like to point out that I asked a question and it was not a criticism. However, if it does turn out that it's Barry's section of singletrack or whatever, then yes, in an ideal world it should have an apostrophe, but this isn't an ideal world, it's Singletrackworld - boom boom.

Never the less I am still going to stick a lip on that bombhole, fnarr, fnarr.

Barry's bombhole? You're welcome to him 😀

Whenever I go to Leith all I can ever find is the tower and the bloody cricket pitch, oh and Telegraph Road but that's shite now anyway. So I wouldn't worry too much about over-use. Everyone's down the bus stop at Peaslake or reluctantly buying tubes from Nirvana.

I've forgotten what my point was.

I don't think I had one.

Much like everyone else I guess.

You can buy tubes in Peaslake now.

And telegraph road isn't on Leith Hill. You also sound like you need a guide if that's all you can find (or an optician).

i'm a complaints critic and these people moaning are rubbish at it. 1/10. i guess everyone has to start somewhere, but you're ruining the whinging for the rest of us. you should create some man made posts to moan about.

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I liked the video, BTW.

I'm always stunned at the number of people who do have to stop and look at that bombhole at the top of BKB (avoiding any apostrophe related faux pas), there often seem to be groups peering cautiously down it!

Bombhole on BKB? What bombhole?

Deliverance is the most over-hyped piece of crap in the UK. It's just a steep bit with some roots on. The chicken run is a thousand times nicer to ride. Do you know how it got it's name? It's not because of the tin shack at the bottom but because a fat boy got bummed there.

evidently planning permission has been granted for a cafe selling expensive cappuccinos and macchiatos by day and a wine bar by night at the bottom of Barry Knows Best. this should see the rider demographic of the area improve greatly. those nasty shouty downhilling freeriders give mountainbiking a bad name.

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Bombhole on BKB? What bombhole?

njee20, I've just read your advice on leg shaving:

It's easier for massage, if you use warm up oil or anything, it stops mud sticking to your legs, and it makes your legs look more toned. It's a fair bit of faff to keep them looking nice though, every day or two.

Warm up oil, WTF, who do you think gives a sh1t if your legs look toned, was it you that got bummed at Deliverance?

That was very much a tongue in cheek comment dear boy.

Not wrong with warm up oil though, only for racing admittedly, but useful if you're likely to be standing around in the cold a long time before you actually race.

Anywho, what's got your back up? Are you one of the people often found peering over the roll in on BKB?

Edit: as an aside, as it was apparently a 'fat boy' who got bummed that excludes me sadly, however as you describe yourself as a "clumsy and heavy rider", was it your arse that got invaded?

Yep, do you think if I shaved my legs, got lubed up and bought an Epic I'd be able to get to your standard

Yes it was your arse that got invaded? Quite an admission on a public forum. Well done. 🙂

I'm not quite sure what I've done to upset you, is it your time of the month?

It was you that bummed me wasnt it Mr Evans

Now we're REALLY down to 8 year old humour. How mature.

If you have actually got all sensitive because you're one of the people who stands at the top of that roll in, and you ride an SX-Trail then you are a moron. I appreciate that to some novices it may be a bit daunting, but you don't strike me as the sort of person who would classify oneself as a novice!

Oooh, it's a cheeky edit to get my name in there, nice 🙂

Would you like to go for a ride sometime, we can settle our differences away from here, and perhaps I can show you how not to ride like a 4 year old, and that's rich coming from me.

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i love these threads, especially this one with the return of stoppadoodledoo!

good to see you guys on sunday dango, did james get the second jump in the end?

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Yep, he did all of it, then we headed over to Deliverance for some bum action

Oh, have you given up on childish name calling 🙁

Calm down it's only a ......[Michael Winner stylee]

It's so busy at BKB etc etc because all the features in magazines(MBR probably - why not get an MBR beating in too) and websites IMO. Don't think I've seen anyone at 'all the pies' 'two head dog' or 'fat Jim' but then they haven't been featured in mags, or on trailbuilding sites ans they're natural. I only use BKB as access to the shop for refreshments. I think BKB is ruined now anyway, there are so many options/lines that it spoils the flow - sorry trailbuilders, just my opinion - and I don't understand 'de-berming'. Surely if a berm has been created through use, that is the line, people will keep to the line, destroy it and that's why we have multiple lines all over the place, THAT is more erosion?

I agree, BKB used to be better, never great, but better

All the trails used to be better IMO!

The new line of Yoghurt Pots is sensible and makes it more suitable for the people that will insist on riding it all year round but the line of 5-6 years ago was more fun.

Most of the other trails just don't flow in the same way they used to, too many people on big bikes skidding their way through everything. I guess it's a good thing it's so popular, but still...

It means that more trails are being discovered in other parts of the vast Surrey Hills.

There's a couple of good bits on Winterfold which seem to have appeared fairly recently, I'm often amazed how many people you see on Leith/Holmbury and no one on Pitch or Winterfold.

Anyone doing that Orienteering event this Sunday up there?

On deberming: If the naturally formed berms aren't taken out every now and then they just catch water, form puddle, and then a new line will appear. A built berm is different - you design it so that water flows away from it.

On the multiple lines of BKB: Unfortunate consequence of very high usage. Worst bit is the fall-line at the end, but that will soon be put beyond use with a new ending being built.

On Yogurt Pots being less fun: What? Whatever. It's really fast and flowy now! It would not have lasted as it was anyway.

I like most of the new bits on YP inc your berm at the end, not impressed with the non bermed bits before the pointless mini table though

The parts that go around the wet spots are great though

Pointless mini table was due to be made more biggerer and less pointless, but haven't had the chance to do so yet.

Flat corners - well it is nice to have some corners that need skill isn't it? They can all be rolled without brakes. If you're good enough!

True, but with berms you could go even faster

Yoghurt Pots is undoubtedly the best it's been in recent years, but it used to be more twisty with steeper drops, which was more of a challenge. Agree it got crap a few years ago, probably due to over use particularly in winter. Frankly I'm probably remembering it with rose-tined M-frames, the new berm at the bottom and the fact you've can avoid the wet bits is brilliant.

Agree with Dango on the top bits though, particularly the first RH bend after the split with Doc at the Radar Station could do with being a bit more bermed I think, although the adverse camber keeps you on your toes!

I totally agree it's a great trail, just nothing like it used to be, for better or worse!

Edit: damn my slow typing.

Maybe we'll re-visit the top corners (tight RH and flat three) at some point. So much time has gone into it already, and we've already got to the point where it meets all the objectives; it doesn't fall apart from braking damage and water erosion; it is sufficiently fun that most riders will not want to go a different route; all standards of rider can get something out of it; it is safe without feeling sterile; it looks respectable and is acceptable to the land owners, agents and other users.

Some charming homophobia in this thread.

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It is with great sadness that I read of the commercialisation of the Surrey Hills.

What are you talking about grumm - berm bandits! 😉

Parklife is now complete with a nice whippy bermed exit instead of the horrendous washboard that used to be there (that's "Yoghurt Pots" for the bacterially-infested dessert substance fans among us...).

PS: Did I say "whippy bermed exit"? Oooooh. Matron.

Commercialisation? Yes, how unfortunate that it is a real place where real people live and work.

The work on Parklife (for it is no longer fitting to call it Yogurt Pots, 'cos there ain't no Yogurt!) is not commercial though - it is because Hurtwood Control have recognised that without sensible input and design and control mountain biking has the potential to wreck the Hurtwood.

I do find you southerners funny, getting all worked up over your silly-named trails which are basically riding down a steepish slope for about 30 metres. 🙂

"grumm - Member

I do find you southerners funny, getting all worked up over your silly-named trails which are basically riding down a steepish slope for about 30 metres."

Clearly, you are either a tr*ll (in which case you can **** orf) or have never ridden in the hills hereabouts.

In which case you're just an ignorant git who doesn't know what decent beer tastes like...

PS: ... and lives on fat, chips and stewed tea.

Grumm - ignorance is bliss

Basically, the Surrey Hills are now the nearest trail centre to London, and that means they get all the cr@p that goes with trail centres.

Dango: good to meet you and your band of merry men at the weekend - I was on the red M3.