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I still think there is a halfway house here. I want the trails to be accessible to most but I don't want them to be rideable by everybody. There may be bits where the desire lines need to be surfaced, other bits need to be 'fenced' so you can't ride around them. What's wrong with people having to walk the odd section, it's what I do when I bottle something. The little bridges we're putting in at the moment, hop off if you're not happy. Thing is if we bypass every obstacle then there's no incentive for people to get better. I'd rather be forced to either try an obstacle or walk it rather than have an easy option of always being able to ride around it.
I think the staircase is a good example. I can just about ride it (not always fully in control, Ed may be able to sort that 😆 ), many can't or won't, lets just make sure you can't go around if you don't ride it, it's fine to walk down, even with a full wheelbarrow as many of us can attest.
all good points guys , as for the new section don't forget there is a nice smooth wide fire road not 10 yards to the right for all those that don't fancy the trail that we are building , perhaps we should put a escape trail to the fire road near the big log so those that have decided to have a look can easily chicken out of the rest
I walked it Jon. I promise next time to bite the bullet and go for it.
Guys i just want to say i was over there a few weeks ago and it was rather wet but it was still an absolute blast!! Keep up the good work and i will be back for more soon 😀
I walked it Jon.
Me too, and I helped build the darn thing... 😳
I promise next time to bite the bullet and go for it.
Hopefully after our day with Ed-O next weekend, I'll be able to say the same thing! 😆
tony if ed stands at the bottom you will be able to fall into his beard for a soft landing 😆
The stairs aren't difficult really, it's no steeper than say Walnar Scar in the lakes it's just narrower that's all. As long as you have a clear line in and out of a "feature" most will have no problems. It is a red trail after all so should be in places hard yet not all the time. As for those who cut bits out it's down to us to guild them in the right way. As Jon says using fences etc, can work but if the trail just doesn't "flow" then maybe armour those places. Also worth noting is that Gisburn attracts a high number of families with children as well as those new to riding who may not be aware of how demanding a trail will be until they're on it. This is in my opinion, the reason why there is in place lots of short cuts taken.
Taught a guy how to ride the staircase today. That whole section is good for coaching on and it's sheltered.
Ideally you should be pumping it for speed to hit the berm! We'll concentrate on riding it smoothly first though chaps 🙂
Ideally you should be pumping it for speed to hit the berm!
😯 😕 😳 😥 ................ 🙄
Although possibly not in that order.
other bits need to be 'fenced' so you can't ride around them. What's wrong with people having to walk the odd section, it's what I do when I bottle something. The little bridges we're putting in at the moment, hop off if you're not happy.
Yes, agreed.
Although, the bridges are naturally fenced, otherwise you end up in the ditch. But other obsticals and lines will need fencing in if we don't want a feature lost within a sea of muddy tracks. I rode the Hamsterly black route a few years ago and felt really sorry for the trail builders there, every section they built had almost been completely lost within a massive sea of muddy tyre tracks going off in all directions around the feature.
Ideally you should be pumping it for speed to hit the berm!
Knacker, our head of trail design at Stainburn always talks about riding certain obsticals pump track style, it's the future!. 😉
Ideally you should be pumping it for speed to hit the berm! We'll concentrate on riding it smoothly first though chaps
You should be doing [i]WHAT[/i] to do [i]WHAT[/i] to the [i]WHAT[/i]!!! 😯
OK then... 😕
🙂
Seriously, I'm really looking forward to it.
hi nice to see the dig days making front page news , we got a lot done tweaking the section before the bridge on Sunday (although i think those new berms are a bit on the large size) so now we can crack on with the new section again , also a massive thanks to the single traction guys for all the extra help on Sunday
also a massive thanks to the single traction guys for all the extra help on Sunday
Second that. More dig days next week carrying on with the tree ride section, we now have two trees end to end. Anyone fancy helping judt drop me an email.
hi nice to see the dig days making front page news
no idea how that got there, must've been Martin forwarding on the email I sent him yesterday. Cheers STW guys 😀
also a massive thanks to the single traction guys for all the extra help on Sunday
Thirded. 🙂