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As title, anyone heard or seen anything that they can reveal? Long travel 29er hardtail, High Latitude in 853, 650b, new Fortitudes?
yes, but no. if you emailed me I couldn't possible say any more.
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in response to your questions - some yes, some no 😉
My money's on 650b Cores...
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LOL at Mattrgees's link - that lets the cat out of the bag!
Wonder if the High Latitude Alfine is continuing?
Wonder no longer, it isn't. Neither is the grapil.
So there is the revised croix de fer, a fat bike and some 650b hardtails, I wonder what else? Sometime in September is the launch day?
Wonder no longer, it isn't. Neither is the grapil.
Blimey, that's bad news if the Grapil has only lasted 1 season. Saying that, it was always massively under spec'd for the money.
I used to really, really like Genesis - the bikes were spot on and the prices were very competative.
They seem to have lost it over the last two or three years though.
The pricing of the Grapil (awful, awful name btw) was laughable, which was a shame as it looked like a really well thought out bike.
If I had a spare £1200, I'd buy one tomorrow, now they've come down so much.
They seemed to want to become an 'aspirational' brand, in the mould of Orange or Santa Cruz, rather than the elegant, understated, design led brand they were previously.
Shame really, there's only so many idiots prepared to pay over the odds for something that's available for a grand less elsewhere.
From what I can see, Madison are almost trying to reposition genesis as the go between brand between Saracen and ridgeback. With Saracen supplying the mtb's, genesis the road/cross bikes and ridgeback the hybrid/touring bikes. There are some crossover models for those who are brand loyal but otherwise they're breaking it down slightly differently than they used to. The new Saracen range is very interesting.
Their Core rage has been watered down over the last 3 years. There used to the Core 10, 20,30,40 and 50 but down just two half hearted models now with lower than average spec.
Too many brands, too much confusion.
A nice steel all-round road bike?
That'll be the Genesis Equilibrium.
A cracking steel tourer?
Er, hang on, that's the Ridgeback Panorama.
Why not just have one brand?
Yes, Saracen and Ridgeback have historical significance to a few old farts like me, but to newbies their history must be a bit meaningless, surely?
Wonder no longer, it isn't.
A pity, that. Hub gears seem like a great idea for the local riding conditions...
I'm sure there's a 650b in the offing and I'm guessing steel. Core alu is 26, Latitude 29, so may have a new name.
High latitude LT 650b. Looks very interesting.
Oh and the core is 650b too.
Any lists of the range?
My Bike to Work is due and always liked Genesis. Was getting a Croix de Fer but if there's something new...
Nothing new particularly in the bike2work range. There's a new croix de fur 931 but that's a couple of grand. New equilibrium disc is £1500. There's a 650b cross bike aimed at younger/smaller riders.
Grapil 20 2013 at £1450, seems at that price it's not as badder buy as many thought at £2299
They do seem to have lost their way a bit, connected to Dom's departure? I have a 2011 Core 30, reasonable spec. just upgraded a few bits, but really happy with it now, the 40 & 50 back then were really good buys, since then, and this year the mtb range has got a lot poorer I think, no decent spec. 26" bike in the line up, a first attempt at 29ers & the grapil.......
I'd love a fortitude, but not at those prices!
If they had a decent 26" steel frame now I'd buy one to swap the bits off my core onto, I can't understand why they ditched what they did best??? Cotic & others still have a market for those type of bikes evidently. I'll probably end up with a soul frame as a result! 🙂
Have the 2011 Core 20 at the moment, and don't fancy the new HT line up! Think I could be tempted by a cut price Grapil 20 though...
Is the High Latitude 2x10 sticking round?
Nope. 1x10 at £999
I don't think I'd touch a Grapil with a bargepole, they all seem to break in the same place due to a design flaw.
What steel 29ers are coming apart from 1x10?
just that one im afraid.
We're popping down to Madison for a look at (most of) the full lineup this coming Wednesday. I'll take all the photos I can!
Hmmm, might have to rethink. Cotic Solaris full build is too expensive. Have a 2k limit for a steel 29er
Any info on the Volare would be rather good, thanks muchly...
🙂
So... Any news/pics? Looking at the sub £900 MTB complete bikes in particular 🙂
Ta.
£4999.99
Available as a frame set too in either a di2 version or external cabling option.
Haha, that sounded like you said 5 grand.
[url= http://shop.18bikes.co.uk/products.php?plid=m1b0s442p0&tbv=_BIKES_Genesis ]Genesis @ 18 Bikes[/url]
i did. 😀
Here's our first news story on the new range - we'll be able to update properly with photos once Genesis have them all photographed.
It's a really great looking range - I'm well chuffed with their choices/tweaks for the coming year.
http://shop.18bikes.co.uk/news.php?articleid=114
Wow theres some mentally cool sounding bikes in that range. Never thought I'd say that about Genesis bikes. Fair play to 'em
Electric shifting, Alfine Day One and a Stainless Steel Croix de Fer. Cool. Shame about the loss of the steel 29ers though.
Alfine Di2, now that is interesting 💡
I'm interested in the Equilibrium disc frame - looks lovely.
Just read the Genesis blurb about the complete bike and seen that it's a spookily similar build to what I've got on my black Cotix X. They're using M756 (old Deore XT) 6-bolt hubs, which I find to be really smooth and durable - but be warned that they are heavier than most.
Shame that the fortitudes and Grapil have gone.
They will be heavy - perhaps with the exception of that 953 frame. And I'm struggling to see the need for Alfine di2. On a FS with odd cable runs, perhaps (if you can tension the chain w/o the tensioner), but Alfine shifts just fine as it is.
And I have a Genesis Alfine hubbed ioid which I love, despite the portliness. I struggle to lift my friends Day One Alfine though!
Pretty poor show for MTB'ers I reckon, the new 650b high latitude being the only high end bike in the line up, besides the caribou fatty.
Fortitude prices to go up or down now? I[i] really[/i] want one...... 🙁
Got the Fortitude Adventure Alfine 11 Excellent bike,nice one Genesis 😉
No so sure about the Equilibrium disc, interested in the 853 Volare though.
@simonbowns Do the Core/lower end Mantle look like decent starter bikes? Or am I best of saving for the High Latitude? Can't see from the spec but I take it the core & mantle aren't 10 speed? Not to fussed if its a 650b or a 29er as its so long since I've ridden that disc brakes are a novelty 😀