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G1800 rear hub movement

 PJay
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I noticed a bit of a knock when sat on my gravel bike and rocking the bike which I occasionally do to check that the  headset hasn't loosened off  I checked & re-tensioned the headset but the knock still remained - but only, it turns out, when actually seated. It turns out it's the rear hub of the G1800 wheels (370, 3 pawl).

If I put the bike in the rack and apply the rear brake, I can hold the tyre and rotate the wheel back and forth very slightly. It’s only about 1mm of movement but accounts for the odd knocking. I can see the hub move slightly between the cassette & brake mount (the rotor & cassette don’t seem to move).

I’m not sure if this is meant to happen (is it related to the hub’s pick up which I gather is slower than the ratchet hubs DT Swiss do) or do I have any issue. If it is a problem do you have any suggestions.

The cassette, rotor & thru-axel were all correctly torqued.

I've emailed DT Swiss support at Madison but I thought I'd ask here too.


 
Posted : 17/05/2024 1:26 pm
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It's not the pads moving in the caliper? That's pretty common and not sure how the freehub would be the root cause of what you described.


 
Posted : 17/05/2024 2:19 pm
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Sounds like pads moving to me all. Watch the top of the caliper, you may be able to see them move back and forth.


 
Posted : 17/05/2024 2:39 pm
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or a centre lock disc moving on the splines?  there is always some play in a cerntrelock setup usually disguised by the tightness of the fixings


 
Posted : 17/05/2024 2:49 pm
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Not when torqued to spec.


 
Posted : 17/05/2024 2:52 pm
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I'll have a look, thanks.

It sounds like this though - https://www.reddit.com/r/bikewrench/comments/syqshp/playmovement_between_rotor_and_hub_dt_g1800/

Although mine are Centerlock rotors. I'll double check the rotor lockring too.


 
Posted : 17/05/2024 2:52 pm
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Not when torqued to spec.

the freeplay is still there - its just the tightness of the lockring makes it less likely to be noticed / an issue.  centrelock has to have that freeplay as its a sliding fit on splines.


 
Posted : 17/05/2024 2:56 pm
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Not when tightened to 40Nm - same as a cassette on a splined free hub - movement is there until preload is applied with locking.

By the same argument a 6-bolt rotor has movement on the 6 mounting bolts - until preload is applied by torquing the bolts to spec.


 
Posted : 17/05/2024 3:06 pm
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Which cassette are you running?

The G 1800's come with a road spaced freehub, if you're running a MTB spaced cassette you need to put a 1.85mm spacer behind it.

Without the spacer the cassette will 'clunk' even if it's torqued up.


 
Posted : 17/05/2024 3:15 pm
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Thanks. It's a 10 speed Deore on a road HG freehub but I have DT Swiss's own spacer in place; all up to torque & no play.

When I'm back home I'll double check the rotor lockring and go from there


 
Posted : 17/05/2024 4:26 pm
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The Fulcrum RacingSport77DB rear that came with my Cube Attain GTC periodically loosens the endcaps, allowing the hub/cassette to move a bit side to side, gets obvious when it needs tightening urgently as sprocket changes don't shift nicely.


 
Posted : 17/05/2024 4:42 pm
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All resolved 👍

It was a rather loose lockring on the rotor. I'm not sure how it happened as I'm pretty sure I did the front & rear rotors at the same time with the same torque wrench.


 
Posted : 18/05/2024 1:47 pm
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