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Is there one full Suss out there that is bombproof for our riding conditions or do we just have to treat them like pampered snowflakes and wrap them up in a warm cocoon until April like a lot of roadies do?Any other consumer products would be not fit for purpose yet we put up with it?


 
Posted : 23/11/2017 8:34 am
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My Turner Sultan is fine.


 
Posted : 23/11/2017 8:39 am
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My edit is fine


 
Posted : 23/11/2017 8:41 am
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Whyte have lifetime warranty on bearings


 
Posted : 23/11/2017 8:43 am
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I've ridden my Camber through 4 British winters and am still on the first set of bearings.


 
Posted : 23/11/2017 8:45 am
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I rode my Anthem in the mud, wind and rain last week. Seems to be ok for the experience, same as it has been for the last 4 years...


 
Posted : 23/11/2017 8:45 am
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you're doing it wrong


 
Posted : 23/11/2017 8:46 am
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My 5 is fine...


 
Posted : 23/11/2017 8:46 am
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Doing it wrong as in???
As for Whyte lifetime the devils in the detail!


 
Posted : 23/11/2017 8:49 am
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My hardtail is fine.


 
Posted : 23/11/2017 8:50 am
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My 5 is also fine.
I love mud.


 
Posted : 23/11/2017 8:51 am
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Orange 5 for the win then?


 
Posted : 23/11/2017 8:52 am
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Yep and old ones are cheap now.


 
Posted : 23/11/2017 8:53 am
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Or a 4 or alpine


 
Posted : 23/11/2017 8:53 am
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My trance did a good few years of mud without any issues.


 
Posted : 23/11/2017 8:54 am
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My spectral has been fine through 3 winters although it has had a bearing change and a bit of TLC


 
Posted : 23/11/2017 9:01 am
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.....or do we just have to treat them like pampered snowflakes and wrap them up in a warm cocoon until April

I don't know anyone who does this. Just ride the bloomin' things. Quick rinse down (or not) after a ride & ready for next time.


 
Posted : 23/11/2017 9:08 am
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My 2 (3 winter old) VPP Santa Cruz’s and their lifetime bearing warranty, that I haven’t had to use yet, have been fine.

My 18 month old Specialized FSR Ebike, still fine

My DW link Pivot is just coming into its first winter, but has been ridden in all sorts of filth so far, also fine.

So, lots of bearings, no problems....

What issues are you having?


 
Posted : 23/11/2017 9:11 am
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My Five doesn't struggle


 
Posted : 23/11/2017 9:12 am
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Must admit my Anthem is put away in the loft until next summer.
Needlessly it seems.


 
Posted : 23/11/2017 9:13 am
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That's it I'm going riding (it was a bit tongue in cheek mind


 
Posted : 23/11/2017 9:15 am
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Just fit new bearings at the start of spring.

What do bearings costs ,i think its 50 quid for my bike, and thats oneof the more expensive ones.

Hardly a big deal is it.


 
Posted : 23/11/2017 9:18 am
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My KTM Scarp is fine, 2000km of all weather riding on one set of OE main pivot bearings isn't bad if you ask me. They're a whole £20 for Max Enduro ones and about an hour to change.

Hardly a trial once every year or so.


 
Posted : 23/11/2017 9:25 am
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My 2010 Anthem is fine, as is my 2005 Hustler (still on original bearings) but I do ride the anthem much more. My hardtail is also fine but the Anthem is the go to bike at any time of year.


 
Posted : 23/11/2017 9:29 am
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Must admit my Anthem is put away in the loft until next summer.
Needlessly it seems.

My (2007) Anthem only comes out in the winter!


 
Posted : 23/11/2017 9:35 am
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Issue is ongoing Creak/graunch that so far 3 different bike shops haven't been able to nail down , all have different opinions none of which ever solve it permanently? After 2 years of trying gets a bit wearing .


 
Posted : 23/11/2017 9:39 am
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This will be my first winter with my new full sus, I plan to not wash the frame and other parts too much and just keep the fork, shock and dropper stanchions clean after each ride and then clean the drivetrain lightly after each ride with a proper degrease every other or 3 rides. See how it holds up. Will prob give it a full wash every month, I dont want to be blasting extra water or muc off into the bearings


 
Posted : 23/11/2017 9:43 am
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5 is the only answer. Mine's going good after 10 years with one easy bearing change 😀


 
Posted : 23/11/2017 9:48 am
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I hear you oldfart, you are not alone. doesn't matter the make, i go through frame bearings like cups of tea.


 
Posted : 23/11/2017 9:49 am
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No issues here. Just ride. Previous Oranges would give me years from a pair of bearings. This will be my first winter with a multi-pivot bike, so we'll see.

And why do we bother? Because parts of the country are pretty rocky.

I'll still be washing my FS though. I think that grunge can build up around bearings which ends up forcing its way into the seals. Cleaning with a hose currently cos my jetwasher has packed up.


 
Posted : 23/11/2017 9:51 am
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@ Oldfart & daver27 - what FSers are you riding?


 
Posted : 23/11/2017 9:54 am
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daver27 a lone voice in the wilderness! Process nerve love the bike but.... Think bearings are a red herring tbh my mates Process just had its first bearing change same year as mine I reckon they work for ages with worn bearings just seems the favourite place to start looking with mystery noises!


 
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Yep, Five's and Heckler's ... Had a 2004 Heckler that became my winter full sus, bearings lasted forever (now sold) my 2011 Heckler will be the new winter bike, bearings are good on that but I got a replacement set just in case from SCUK - filled in an opline form and they were here in a few days. Single pivots are great UK bikes, sadly Heckler no longer sold 😥


 
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Where do i start...

Norco Sight 1 26 2013
Norco Sight Carbon 2014
Saracen Ariel x 650 2015
Mondraker Dune XR 650 2016
Santa Cruz Hightower CC 2017

To be fair, the santa cruz has only had 2 bearings fail in 200 miles and sure enough lifetime warranty had a new set wing its way to me free of charge in 48 hours. the rest of them are still smooth, but still, the rest have all failed within 6 months, some within a few weeks of purchase (mondraker) resulting in cracked frames and mucho warranty. I am not alone either..


 
Posted : 23/11/2017 10:15 am
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A wash down with one of those hozelok ‘wheel brush’ hose attachments keeps mine clean enough after most rides.


 
Posted : 23/11/2017 10:16 am
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Single ring really makes life so much easier now.
With the 5 there's just nowhere for the mud to collect now.
I love mud.


 
Posted : 23/11/2017 10:18 am
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First thing you should do is upgrade to enduro bearings, they do last longer in our crappy weather.

Don't jet wash, just use a hose and bucket (sponge and brush).


 
Posted : 23/11/2017 10:26 am
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mine are never jetwashed and only hand washed with water, no detergents or cleaning products.

hardtail is all set for winter now anyway


 
Posted : 23/11/2017 10:28 am
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Then of course there's a rigid fat bike. All the comfort and zero maintenance.


 
Posted : 23/11/2017 10:29 am
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love the "3 winters and my bearings are fine" comments.

Bet they are not.

My five would feel rough after 1 winter (cheap though). Although i guess it depends on your grease and what your riding in.
16 months on the liteville but wow they are expensive in comparison.


 
Posted : 23/11/2017 10:30 am
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darrenspink Enduro Max fitted in June bike shop used Loctite when installing them (see my other thread) as this was the Only way? to fit them properly! In fact the Loctite has been responsible for some of them failing.


 
Posted : 23/11/2017 10:32 am
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What have you been riding? No problems with any of the single-pivot Oranges I've ridden through 18 Yorkshire winters, with virtually no care or maintenance apart from a quick hose down and spray the chain with GT85. Latest Five is continuing the tradition. Had five single-pivots and changed about 4 sets of bearings in 18 years, and I ride around 8 hours a week on average.


 
Posted : 23/11/2017 10:37 am
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I don't bother. I've only got a hardtail now, and I've not been on that since August 😕


 
Posted : 23/11/2017 10:37 am
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south downs, Surrey Hills, Afan, Bike Park Wales. mostly South Downs and Surrey Hills though.

Agreed with andybrads comments about '3 winters and fine' guaranteed they are just held together with dust and hope.


 
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Issue is ongoing Creak/graunch that so far 3 different bike shops haven't been able to nail down... After 2 years of trying gets a bit wearing .

Could be your knees? Being an old fart and all...


 
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