[Closed] For some reason I found that ride quite hard...

So some dude goes to the gym for a year doing weights but no cardio, from working his legs they get pretty big.

Is that going to win him the TDF?

I think not.

Back to the OP from the thread digression!

You're worried about one bad ride? Most of us will have had one at some point where we had to turn back before we even did the distance you managed. If you feel like you managed to ride hard but were knackered at the end I'm sure you'll survive.

If you keep getting these symptoms every time you're out then start worrying but FFS, one bad ride could be down to a huge number of things (dehydration, lack of sleep, previous ride/holiday catching up, mild sick bug, and so on) and really not worth worrying about.

No one will be able to point out what it was that caused this one for you, if you're not lucky enough to work out yourself what was different about that one ride then just forget about it and see how the next one goes.

I think I have realised what your problem is Flow, you either cannot read, or cannot understand the words you do read. In short you are ignorant.

Flow you said

Muscle size has nothing to do with muscle endurance. You can have big muscles due to having well developed slow twitch fibres, that will not help you much in a cycling race.

Then you said

Warton, do you actually know what slow and fast twitch fibres do?

Obviously not.

Have a read of this, you might learn something.

http://www.ultracycling.com/training/training_with_purpose.html

We will start with the above in your link it clearly describes slow twitch fibres as endurance fibres and fast twitch as strength/power.
So I would argue that big muscles from the gym are more likely to be fast twitch?

I think you should read that again mate or are you dyslexic?

I could always send you over an mp3 of me reading it out for you.

[b]Then you will probably want to read the link I posted a few more times so it sinks in.
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Again, I could send you an mp3 over if it troubles you.

If you had read that link and [b]actually let it sink[/b] in you probably would not have said this. As it clearly states that slow twitch muscles are the ones used for endurance, they do not fatigue as quickly as fast twitch muscles.

Before you lay into people and accuse them of being dyslexic and generally throw your negativity around, perhaps you should engage brain?

Sorry toys are are wrong.....again.

Directly from the link I gave you

Fast twitch fibers IIb

These fibers are the strongest, most glycolytic, and fatigue most quickly. They produce energy by metabolizing glycogen anaerobically.

From a bodybuilding site

Type IIb muscle fibers have the fastest-contractile speed, the largest cross-sectional area, the lowest oxidative capacity, and the highest glycolytic capacity. They are ideally suited for short fast bursts of power. These muscle fibers are used in such activities as sprinting, powerlifting, and bodybuilding. Type IIa muscle fibers are intermediate and their properties lie between type I and type IIb.

You can't argue with facts.

Come back when you actually have a valid argument.

You blatantly have [b]no[/b] idea what you are on about.

Yes flow, but my point in that you either cannot read nor understand what you read is confirmed by what you have quoted from that link.

You said that [b]slow[/b]twitch fibres were the ones that you get from body building and would not help you in a cycle race. Yet the quote above contradicts this.

Or you are saying that to win a cycle race you need explosive power, but you do not need endurance???

Again I repeat try to engage your brain before you go and bleat on again.

So some dude goes to the gym for a year doing weights but no cardio, from working his legs they get pretty big.

Is that going to win him the TDF?

No, cause he'll have nothing but fast twitch muscles. He'll be pretty handy in the track sprint though!

Sorry I should have added this

In general the higher the amount of reps, the more slow twitch fibers you work, and the lower the amount of reps, the more fast twitch fibers you work. Also the sets in the 1-5 rep range don't recruit as many fast twitch fibers as sets in the 6-12 rep range although they do recruit a higher percentage of fast twitch fibers compared to slow twitch.

If you know anything about bodybuilding you will know bodybuilders do high reps for mass, in the 10-12 rage. Power lifters do lower reps for strength in the 5-8 range.

I really can't see where you two dumbasses are going with this...

I really can't see where you two dumbasses are going with this...

And with that I leave this thread, what a charming young man.

Yeah essentially you have been proven wrong, so as usual you resort to insults. You are a trolling pillock.

I have been proven wrong, really?

Maybe I should have said

Muscle size has nothing to do with muscle endurance. You can have big muscles due to having well developed slow twitch fibres [b]from bodybuilding[/b], that will not help you much in a cycling race.

then you would understand?

Pick your brain cell up on the way out.

You can have big muscles due to having well developed slow twitch fibres from bodybuilding, that will not help you much in a cycling race.

Thank you toys19, flow, will you please palm your own head for your continuous, relentless mistake. 😆

No, bodybuilding for MASS requires higher reps of 10-12 and develops slow twitch muscle fibres

Power lifting for STRENGTH requires lower reps of 5-8 range and develops FAST TWITCH MUSCLE FIBRES!

Unfortunately that is a misapprehension. You cannot really increase the size of your slow twitch fibres, any increase in mass will come from growth of the fast twitch fibres.

If you say so 🙄

http://www.gain-weight-muscle-fast.com/building-muscles.html