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Hi,
My fiance's Soul has developed a weird issue where the bike seems to "flutter" when going round high-g tarmac corners or where the wheel is slipping off obstacles... to the point I can feel what she means, even though its a few sizes too small for me.

At first I thought the backwheel was not tight enough in the dropout; it feels like the back wheel is wobbling under load. But it seems to be perfectly tight. Equally, there doesn't seem to be anything wrong with the frame as far as I can tell. The headset is tight, the front axle is tight. The tyres have decent tread left, spokes seem tight, bearings are maybe could do with a change, but don't seem horrific.

I have even tried putting a different wheel in, and while that maybe helped a little, didn't solve it.

It almost feels like a less severe version when I snapped a downtube, but as I say, I have cleaned the frame right up and it seems fine.

Any thoughts? Its (understandably!) making her really nervous riding it.

Thanks!


 
Posted : 27/11/2017 10:56 pm
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How old are the forks?


 
Posted : 27/11/2017 10:58 pm
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Wot Kelvin said, worn bushings will give you this.


 
Posted : 27/11/2017 11:09 pm
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Fluttering soul sounds like true love to me.


 
Posted : 27/11/2017 11:21 pm
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@molgrips - I don't think she is feeling the love ;).

I didn't realise bushing wear would do that. They aren't tooo old. It feels like it is coming from the back of the bike, but I could certainly believe that is just what it feels like.

Is there a specific test that can be done to confirm if that is the problem?

Thanks!


 
Posted : 27/11/2017 11:27 pm
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I would check contact points inwards - pedal bearings, crank arms, BB wear, BB structure etc...


 
Posted : 27/11/2017 11:38 pm
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Could be rear wheel bearings. Can you move the wheel side to side against the axle/frame?


 
Posted : 27/11/2017 11:52 pm
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Could be rear wheel bearings. Can you move the wheel side to side against the axle/frame?

Chrisps mentioned that everything appears to be tight. But above is a good hint. Shimano Deore Hubs?


 
Posted : 28/11/2017 8:59 am
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spokes seem tight
Get them checked anyway. Only time i've personally had this was on a pair of custom wheels (Mavic 217 sunset on hope, lovely wheels) the entire rear wheel was baggy. Spokes felt tight, but obviously not right. 20 minutes with a spoke key, wheel jig and a tension meter fixed the issue.


 
Posted : 28/11/2017 9:11 am
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Tyre pressure?


 
Posted : 28/11/2017 10:13 am
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I had something similar when I snapped the rear axle. Do the axle ends wiggle independently?


 
Posted : 28/11/2017 10:26 am
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I'm fairly sure that the rear wheel bearings are ok; there is no obvious movement and I took it apart and it seemed fine (if a little stiff).

Interesting on the spokes... maybe I will take it to my LBS and see if they could re-tension the wheels, as I have never mastered that black art.

Going back to the forks; any good way of testing for worn bushings?

Thanks!


 
Posted : 28/11/2017 9:55 pm
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Jam your finger between the lowers and the stantion, pull the front brake on and rock it back and forth. seen if you can feel any movement


 
Posted : 28/11/2017 10:47 pm
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What’s a high-g tarmac corner ?


 
Posted : 28/11/2017 10:52 pm
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Sounds like time to buy a new bike. Each. Just to be safe.


 
Posted : 29/11/2017 12:04 am
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What’s a high-g tarmac corner?

Guessing a berm in a pump track... But have to admit it amused me when read it.


 
Posted : 29/11/2017 12:22 am
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low tyre pressure?


 
Posted : 29/11/2017 12:24 am
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Headset *too* tight?

Wheel(s) out of true?


 
Posted : 29/11/2017 12:25 am
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Tyre not seated properly?


 
Posted : 29/11/2017 2:58 am