[Closed] Flat pedals - alternatives to Saints?

Vaults cheap here

http://www.ubyk.co.uk/catalog/product.php?CI_ID=96&Item=%27DMR%20Vault%20Pedals%27

I loved my vaults, great for my big wide size 10's, but they are a bit cheeselike.

Now using Burgtec penthouse, which are a huge step up in quality.

I had Shimano Saints for while and actually developed quite bad knee pain, which I in correctly associated with running when it was actually the saints with the small platforms and flat body letting my feet point outwards like a duck, swapped to nukeproof horizon pedals and the pain went and the grip is better too!

I'd always look for a flat pedal with a slight concave going forward to aid with foot position.

If you are looking at Superstar Nano's

Have a look at the imaginatively named "Alloy Flat Pedal in 10 Colors" from carboncycles.cc

Same pedal as the Nano and the Nukeproof Electron

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a gentleman off of here, lent me a pair of Straitline defacto pedals.
they were far far better than any pedals I have ever used.
perfect infact.

I was lucky to get them back then 😆

As it happens I prefer vaults & am yet to have any bearing issues, but I clean & re-grease them every few months.

DMR V12 is the best pedal ever. Stick Ti Axles in and they are light grippy resilient durable and expensive! What more do you want.

Wellgo pedals are such good value it's criminal. Gusset slim jim - magnesium are also very durable. I have two pairs because the first never wore out!

DMR Vaults are terrible. They are too thin. If you actually ride rather than look and photograph your bike the bushings wear out in no time. I bought Vaults with ti axles for £210 aprox and had serviced them four times in six months! - Refund

The narrow profile and wide body make the vaults feel nice however a great alternative is the range from HT. I'm riding a pair of [url= http://http://www.ison-distribution.com/english/product.php?part=PDHTME5CK ]ME05[/url]'s and they have proved themselves to be very tough. they aren't as broad as the vaults but I hardly notice it. There is a raised section in the middle of the pedal for the inboard bearing which could irritate but again, Im oblivious when shredding so I love them.

My other favourites are the new/old V12 which I have on my banshee Spitfire. Ti axles all round. _ Because I'm worth it!

I ride ....
Banshee Spitfire.
Dartmoor Shine
Banshee Rampant
Identiti Krysis SL
Pashley Tricycle

... Always downhill

For the record I am a mechanic at [url= http://www.perlierides.co.uk ]Perlie[/url] Rides and have seen every pedal in the world. Honestly, I have seen a disproportionate number of Vaults with knackered bearings. Just don't.

How long have you been on the MEs? The axle/bearing design is total shite on those, the wee flat bearing on the end of the axle has effectively no sealing and lasts no time at all. I see there's a service kit available now at least- there wasn't when I got my AEs so I got 2 warranty replacements in a year then gave up.

(you can bodge it and replace the bearings with a washer stack and just let it float, but you shouldn't have to be doing bodgy workarounds on a £120 pedal... And even then, the main bushings wore super-fast)

I've been on em for a year now and I don't pull my punches on the trails either. Admittedly I only weigh ten stone and have a couple of bikes that share the load. I will also concede they are not the toughest of the pedals I listed but head and shoulders better than the Vaults (similar category)

DMR Vaults are terrible. They are too thin.

Rather odd. Done a full year on my vaults and they are still spinning freely. Not just luck as a lot of friends have them and no complaints either. Wouldn't hesitate to buy again!

I have had DNR Vaults for 4 years, no maintenance and no problems. Great pedals.

3 sets of vaults here, never replaced a bearing, years of riding, just pull them apart and regrese about once a year

If you are looking at Superstar Nano's

Have a look at the imaginatively named "Alloy Flat Pedal in 10 Colors" from carboncycles.cc
Same pedal as the Nano and the Nukeproof Electron

Another Vault fan here. The first set of bushings lasted no time at all, the second a lot longer than the first, but still not great.

Then I figured out I could fit a grease port to them - basically drilled a hole near the bearing end of the axle cavity, tapped it for an extra pedal pin and squirt in some grease periodically. Job done. Not stripped them down since (3 years now?) and I pretty much ride flats only in the winter whatever the weather. OK, it's not ideal to have to modify an expensive product like that, but the shape of the pedal is good enough to warrant the work.

Mine are looking pretty sorry for themselves now after 5+ years, so I might be tempted to try Burgtecs next. Or I might just buy some more Vaults and greaseport them from the off.

Anyone done a comparison of the Vault and the Nano?

They are definitely not the same pedal as the current Nano

They are exactly the same as the previous Nano though (current is Nano-X). And I preferred the previous one in some ways, mainly that it was slightly smaller.

Thanks all. Some great points.

On that note, anyone ridden Hope F20s?

They are exactly the same as the previous Nano though (current is Nano-X). And I preferred the previous one in some ways, mainly that it was slightly smaller.

Not surprised given Superstar's original business model of going to Alibaba and buying in pretty colours. The new Nanos are meant to be made in the UK though - is this a porky pie?

I've got some Electrons and they are grippy and easy to service. However I find the slight hump round the axle gets very uncomfortable after a few hours peddling. This isn't a problem for bike park/trail centre stuff so I have kept them on my full sus (I swap them if I'm going for a long peddley ride). However I had to take them off my CX bike.

Anyone done a comparison of the Vault and the Nano?

Vaults are far nicer to use, Nano's last longer.

Burgtec penthouse trump both.

The new burgtec's look very flat which puts me off them i.e. not much concavity. How are they in use?

Wellgo B154s' for me... they're superb. I found the Electrons ridged in the middle, i don't like that.

I've done 2500 miles on one set of Vaults and about 4000 miles on the others. The older / higher mileage pair have had the bushings and bearings and axles changed once. The other pair have been greased a couple of times.

Burgtec's sit too close to the crank, feels weird. Also two friends had them & had issues with bearing life.

I don't get Vaults - I love mine for actual use, but reliability is total turd. How is there such disparity in longevity between users on here - I can only assume QC issues?

Spec Boomslang looks good too. Lots of decent choice out there now.

DMR Vaults are terrible. They are too thin. If you actually ride rather than look and photograph your bike the bushings wear out in no time. I bought Vaults with ti axles for £210 aprox and had serviced them four times in six months! - Refund

Both pairs of mine have been ace; on them since April after my bikes were knicked. Both pairs are still running smoothly although there are a few pins missing (more on the Demo where I get lot more pedal strikes). I paid £65 a pair so not too bad.

Anyone done a comparison of the Vault and the Nano?

I had Nano's before my Vaults. The Nano's (original version) were very god for the money. The first pair lasted ages and ages. Second pair less due to pins being ripped out.

They don't feel as nice as the Vaults and I don't think they grip quite as well.

I use superstar nano's as they're cheap and work well with my 5:10's.

Only bought one set and they're still going despite the abuse and my "if it ain't broke" maintenance schedule - which is usually reactive rather than pre-emptive.

Burgtec's sit too close to the crank, feels weird

Eh? They are pedals, and as such are attached to the crank! 😆

They were expensive but I like my Specialized Boomslangs. Grippy, quite low profile and don't spin too much.

Superstars ordered. Persuaded by the Made in UK.

We'll see how they last...