need some new riding shoes for xc and some dh should i splash out on some five tens??
Yes they are quality
they are good but they do get a bit soggy (well impacts anyway) if youre planning lots of winter riding, not sure if their other models are a bit better
will be riding all winter in all weather but got sealskins 2 keep the wet out..
too stiff and grippy and dont dry quickly for me
+1too stiff and grippy and [s]dont dry quickly [/s][b]UGLY[/b] for me
Worth it? No, not in terms of value for money. Build quality of a cheap supermarket shoe, and poor weather protection. But they do work, if you want the stickiest shoe out there that's 5 10.
Personally, I use Shimano and Vans, since any half-decent flat shoe has more grip than you need, so I went with the Shimanos for the superior build quality and wet weather manners (my older pair of AM40s has lasted more than twice as long as my Five Tens did, and are still going strong)
My Vans were just cheap 😉 But they do the job almost as well.
My grippiest pedals needed some pins taken out to get the grip level right... So not sure why the super-sticky rubber is seen as a selling point really. If you have good footwork you don't need it, if you have bad footwork no amount of sticky will keep your feet on, surely?
nike 6.0 meelee's for me at the mo. i bought 4 pairs!
If I need the grippiest shoes (gloopy DH), then I wear my 5:10s, however for pretty much everything else I've a much older pair of Shimano flats that are better made, keep the mud out, but are slightly less grippy.
I'm not a flatty-god btw, so I probably rely more than some on the stickiness of 5:10s. They grip so well, I've taken pins out of the pedals on the DH bike. The Vibram sole on the Shimano shoes is harder wearing, and less grippy, but still grippy enough, for almost all situations IME.
not so concerned about the sticky soles, got enough grip with the old airwalks and animal shoes but the superstar pedals rip through the soles in no time so want something to last more than just a couple of months.
Jedi check these out- http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=51904
I had some 5 10 Rennies and like you say they were a nightmare for soaking up water but after a couple of years they finally died the other day and I just got the above today. After the first ride today I can say they are just like wearing a normal skate shoe but with really grippy soles. The soles are thinner and the whole shoe is just way more flexible. I got them pretty wet today so it remains to be seen how quick they dry but they certainly didn't feel that heavy when I took them off
too stiff and grippy and dont dry quickly for me
Yeh, they're shite really. Also very expensive. They are far too heavy and the soles are too thick so you cant feel the pedals properly. They are also too grippy, its difficult to reposition your foot. I used mine for dhing in the alps on a hardtail, they were great for that, for everything else they were poor.
The Vibram sole on the Shimano shoes is harder wearing
Not in my experience.
My soles tore up really quickly riding on my nano techs.
Teva Links! They're even better than my AM41s and as a plus, they don't make you look like a complete mong. 😆
I don't understand the obsession with mega grippy soles me. Way I see it is if you wanted loadsaloadsa grip you'd just wear SPDs, which come with far far more grip at a lower price point.
just remove some pins. I only run 5 each side on the Nanos on my hardtail (each corner and one middle outer edge)not so concerned about the sticky soles, got enough grip with the old airwalks and animal shoes but the superstar pedals rip through the soles in no time so want something to last more than just a couple of months.
chakaping - MemberMy soles tore up really quickly riding on my nano techs.
Thing is though, the soles on my older AM40s look like they've been mauled by a dinosaur but they still work fine. I was worried by the wear at first but it turned out not to matter.
cambrianmonkey, they look stoopid special 🙂
I'm happy with mine, got them on offer though. You only really need that much grip when it's wet and slimy and you are riding techy stuff though IMO.
I have the five ten highs, they are just the same as any other skate shoe - total con imo.... but if you like the look then you may as well get them...
Love my freeriders although they take on water like a sponge and an age to dry out. They've lasted pretty well so far and I'd probably buy another pair when I wear them out.
Also have a pair of basics... for some inexplicable reason they had a cardboard subsole which gave up after a few wet rides. Ripped them out and replaced with another insole. Still wear them mucking around on bikes occasionally, but wouldn't recommend them as a regular use MTB shoe.
debaser - MemberAlso have a pair of basics... for some inexplicable reason they had a cardboard subsole which gave up after a few wet rides.
Apparently they've stopped doing that... Looked at a pair of Impacts in a shop a while back and they still had the cardboard insole though so I don't know if it's across the range.
Apparently they've stopped doing that...
Dunno about the basics but my freeriders definitely have a proper inner sole.
It wasn't just the Basics though, like I say Impacts had(still have?) it, and the old red Karvers definately did too. Really took the piss tbh. Not that it really mattered since mine also fell apart in about 3 other ways anyway 😉
But it's definately a good thing that they're reducing it, hopefully it's just old stock that still have the cardboard in them.
the soles on my older AM40s look like they've been mauled by a dinosaur but they still work fine. I was worried by the wear at first but it turned out not to matter.
Northwind, I thought the same about my AM40s, but took the insole out and there's daylight shining through the holes!
Was fairly set on a Feet First resole or the 5:10 chase, but with jedi's tip £10 cheaper than the former and half the price of the later, I'll give them a pop.
Cheers jedi!
Sizing is weird. Soles are very grippy. Clumpy looks are quite fun. Would I pay that much for a pair of sneakers again? Sure. I'd probably get the same ones too. Although I'd try the next size up.
nedrapier - MemberNorthwind, I thought the same about my AM40s, but took the insole out and there's daylight shining through the holes!
Heh. Bit of duct tape and they'll be right.
The problem with a super soft rubber sole is they don't last very long.
I've had 4 pairs of impacts, they all have had a rubbish cardboard midsole which falls apart after getting wet. 5:10 or marzocchi branded.
Sticky soles are a short cut to confidence but not competency.
Spitfires don't have any cardboard.
5 10 DAPS ARE NOT FOR CYCLING
thought there would be more positive comments than this. think il save a fortune and not bother..
nike 6.0 melees cost 30 quid from hatfield galleria nike outlet 🙂
I've tried the cheap skate shoe option, think they are Duffs but not sure. Much cheaper and seemed great on a dry ride. That all changed when it got wet, couldn't keep my feet on the pedals. Wasn't terrible but they slipped at the times I really wouldn't want them to.
Got a pair of Nikes to try as well but I like them as casual trainers at the moment too much to ruin them on the bike.
With spending £85ish on new 5 10s I seem to keep wearing my old ones unless it's a nice dry day to avoid trashing the new ones until I have to!
Mine have lasted a good few years. Of course they are expensive but with a few years service out of them with what they have to go through is acceptable to me.
nike 6.0 are bmx shoes. awesome sole in wet or dry. i never got on with duffs
Nike 6 uppers dont stretch & are indestructabubble, soles decent not as grippy as Shimano's.
I thought the same about my AM40s, but took the insole out and there's daylight shining through the holes!
My soles wore at a frightening rate. I'm sure the pins will be lodging in my feet very shortly.
But I'm sending them back for warranty anyway because part of the upper has perished. Just flaking away to reveal the wispy padding material inside.
what model of Shimano flats lads ?
Northwind - Member
Worth it? No, not in terms of value for money. Build quality of a cheap supermarket shoe, and poor weather protection. But they do work, if you want the stickiest shoe out there that's 5 10.
I don;'t think that's the case any more - maybe with older 5:10s, mine Sam Hills don't suffer that way, don't seem to have any cardboard in them, and have been through the washing machine numerous times without any issues.
I did however find a wasp in them during a ride the other day, which was unpleasant.
scruff - Member
Nike 6 uppers dont stretch & are indestructabubble, soles decent not as grippy as Shimano's.
My Nike 6.0s tore right across the toecap within a week of me buying them
Perhaps the child slave labour was having an off day ?
worth the money?
No
Managed to split 2 pairs at the sole and upper joint in the heel area, whilst still having a relatively unworn sole. The worst shoe I have ever bought in terms of longevity.Check out Downhill forums for more of the same.
I race bmx and find them really heavy to spin up compared to skate shoes and they feel heavy at the end of a long xc ride.
Feet First,Sheffield, do a resoling service that includes the pimpled 5.10 rubber.Finding a better constructed and lighter shoe that is compatible with their technique is my next step...
I also have the 5:10 Sam Hills and they've lasted a couple of winters and been in the washing machine a few times. They've also been fully submerged in puddles and streams/rivers a few times. They're still in one piece and are fine. I do dry them in an airing cupboard after getting them wet though so maybe that makes a difference?
I do experience the "too grippy" thing where I put my foot in the wrong place and then end up unable to move it to somewhere I want it!
I got them as a birthday present and I'm not sure I'd buy a pair myself, they are good but they're too much money for me really!
This 5.10 is supposed to keep the water out a fair bit better than the others based on various peoples experiences.
http://fiveten.com/products/footwear-detail/10107-karver-smokey-blue
Personally I love 5.10's, your feet stay glued to the pedals smashing through rock gardens. There is a technique to changing the foot position though, you have to lift/go light on your foot a bit to move them. It really isn't hard though. I also find playing with the pin setup in my flats helps.
i have the 5.10 karvers mentioned earlier. They are good at keeping the wet out but they are bulky, heavy and when they do get wet take ages to dry out. the main plus point is they are they are very grippy on my easton flatboys.
currently prefering my merrell gortex shoes with a vibram sole. not as grippy but lighter.
One thing i noticed when going between the two shoes, i have to raise the saddle height a 1/2 inch or so when going to the 5.10's.
had the 5.10s a year or so and the heel cup is falling apart, lace eyelet broken etc.
overall i thought they were great initially but over time and use have noticed their faults.
my next pair of shoes will either be shimano AM41s or oneal triggers i think.
Throwing in a curve-ball : Sombrio. I got a pair (discounted) to replace AM40s - 6 fairly crappy months later they soles are still pretty much like new, the grip is at least as good as the Shimanos, the construction seems really sound and they're not sponge-like. I've got the Shazam with the lace cover and the only bit that seems to get wet is the padded area round the ankle, but that dries pretty quick.
thepurist- those sombrio look interesting, how flexy is the sole? I like a soft flexible sole.
