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Using an e-bike instead of a car is a good thing.
Using an e-bike instead of a bike...hmm, possibly not so good, for a number of well hashed reasons.
Using an e-bike instead of a car is a good thing.
Using an e-bike instead of a bike…hmm, possibly not so good, for a number of well hashed reasons
Using that logic, using ANY bike just for leisure and pleasure is a bad thing ? They all have manufacturing costs, shipping costs, earth natural resource costs.... Surely we should just be walking barefooted then ?
Using an e-bike instead of a bike…hmm, possibly not so good, for a number of well hashed reasons.
Unless you can’t use a normal bike though injury or age
Unless you have limited time and you want to get in maximum riding
Unless you want to ride alpine terrain without lift assistance
Unless you want to self uplift tracks
The only difference between an ebike and a non-ebike is that the former allows dicks to behave badly on the climbs as well as the descents. The central problem is still dicks.
There are posts this week on the Gisburn facebook page about children being spooked into crashing by intimidatory riding and horse riders being abused by assorted arseholes on bikes. I very much doubt this is a purely ebike phenomenon.
The only reassurance is that the worst examples of this appear to be restricted to trail centres, so I'm unlikely to come across them.
I have an off road section that I can commute on, it's 1.6 miles long (which for London is very long!)
I do on my commuter bike, it's uphill on the way home, and has quite a lot of walkers on it. I do about 7-9 miles an hour up it, I realised last night than an e bike would be way quicker!
No need for one at the moment, but I would happily get one if I needed one (by which point the tech will be amazing!)
Ran into a lot of them at Coed Llandegla a few weeks back. I usually ride at night there to avoid the crowds but was showing a mate around on a sunday afternoon. On two sections we encountered them to be rude, obnoxious louts lacking in any sense of trail etiquette or general bike-common sense i.e. waiting to pass. We did JJ's jumps and then on the climb back up a group of at least 10, just came storming through. Some pushing between us, some round the side without a single word. We're both fast XC guys and weren't hanging about, picking our line, out of the saddle side by side. Suddenly you're having to sit down and try to not be knocked off. Prior to this, leaving the black DH section called Dave The fox, there's a steep, technical climb. We were approaching it and i looked back and saw the same group coming, we pushed hard but they caught us and again tried to get past. i HAD to close the door on them to avoid getting knocked off or losing my own safe line, a line i know works to get up the thing. Ricky opened the taps and took them on beating them to the top.
I wish I'd been there to see you closing the door, and Ricky opening the taps. I've got a semi just thinking about it.
On two sections we encountered them to be rude, obnoxious louts lacking in any sense of trail etiquette or general bike-common sense i.e. waiting to pass. We did JJ’s jumps and then on the climb back up a group of at least 10, just came storming through. Some pushing between us, some round the side without a single word.
Vs
i looked back and saw the same group coming, we pushed hard but they caught us and again tried to get past. i HAD to close the door on them to avoid getting knocked off or losing my own safe line, a line i know works to get up the thing.
Ricky opened the taps and took them on beating them to the top.
All of the above mentioned riders sound like a bunch of fannies to me.
Seems you don't all have the excuse of being noobs on ebikes though.
#GoRicky!
Cool story bro.
There's a lot of anger here, I can only imagine being non ebikers that you get upset as the world cup events have limited entry numbers so a lot of you miss out on being in your rightful place amongst other world class riders and have to slum it at a trail centre.
I'm very confused as I have a normal bike and an ebike and don't know which 'mob' I belong in 🙁
Ricky opened the taps and took them on beating them to the top.
Swoon........how does ricky manage to ride with such large balls?
I’m very confused as I have a normal bike and an ebike and don’t know which ‘mob’ I belong in
The riding bikes mob.
Welcome in, the water is warm.
Ignore the oddballs in the corner.
Swoon……..how does ricky manage to ride with such large balls?
He rests them on his taps
Cannock is full of dicks...stay away. Thanks.
What I will say is that I've seen guys on e-bikes riding at inappropriate speeds on shared trails weaving through dog walkers etc. Would they do the same on clockwork bikes? Possibly but the speed would be lower so may not be as dramatic.
I've also seen lots of guys in big groups riding clockwork 'enduro' bikes carving up the hillside cutting new unsustainable trails but that's for another thread...
They're banned from airlines and a lot of the chairlifts in the Alps aren't they?
So normal bikes will be for decent riders, e-bikes will be secondary bikes or primary bikes for useless bimblers.
Aha that’s it I’m in the useless bimbler mob. Phew I have a home at last 😀 so what’s the etiquette for letting the fast non ebikes pass me ?, they will be passing won’t they ?
Every ebiker I've met on the trails has either had a laugh about how lazy they are, had a chat saying we should try one, said thanks as they've gone past or just said hi.
Maybe it's friendlier in Scotland but no issues, just people out enjoying themselves same as me.
FWIW I fancy giving one a try for a day, reckon it would be a good laugh.
I was distracted when I wrote that.
E-bikes will be secondary bikes for decent riders and primary bikes for bumblers. They aren't replacements for normal bikes. You can't put them on planes, a lot of chairlifts won't take them, you can't race them unless it's an e-bike specific event, e-downhill bikes are a bit unwiedldly and nasty compared to their enduro derived cousins.
I wish I’d been there to see you closing the door, and Ricky opening the taps. I’ve got a semi just thinking about it.
🙂
so what’s the etiquette for letting the fast non ebikes pass me ?
I got overtaken (uphill) on my ebike at the weekend. The guy was quite confused, he'd never overtaken an ebiker before :D.
My only e-bike encounter was on the red climb to minch moor early last year maybe spring. Three guys on Ebikes had stopped to take a selfie they asked me to join them in pic 🙂
We had chat/laugh about e-bikes and we parted ways 🙂
I'm gonna chime in on this. They are really starting to wind me up too. I keep hearing people coming up behind me and being competitive I often put the hammer down when I hear that (Don't we all). I've recently blown myself up thinking "jeez this guys fast i cant shake him and he keeps buzzing my tyre". So I pull over having been maxxing HR out for a minute or two... only for it to be some overweight 25 year old on an Ebike..not cool!
Cuts both ways had a great chat with two blokes at thorneliee they were friendly and knowledgeable about their ebikes but first encounter was spooky wood climb where a guy shout "ebike, let me pass" I didn't as I was entering a corner but pulled slightly over (as I would for a faster normal bike) to give him space and allow me to continue my climb. Thanked with a "****s sake" mind you no helmet, jeans and a hi Vis vest. His son on the second ebike had just knocked the Mrs off on a corner. He was pedaling up to it the free wheeling the corner obviously the power switched off and he stalled, at every single corner. I hope they had a nice day but decided it's not for them.
I do bike tours along the Danube. Last summer I had a buggered knee (bone marrow infection). I borrowed an ebike for 2 weeks. That meant I didn't lose any work. It was perfect until my knee got better.
I said hello to lots of people and smiled, even passing them on uphills.
The only aggression and anger I’m seeing is from non ebike riders, tbh and then it’s only on a forum and not out in the real world where we all just get along, usually as twice now someone has given me the ****er sign and mentioned ebike despite my politeness, personally I ignore it but I always think it’s a dodgy move insulting someone you don’t know in the middle of some trail as not everyone is as easy going as I am.
So wot we learnt here is ebikers can be dicks and non ebikers can be dicks but having an ebike doesn't make you a dick and having a non ebike dont make you a dick. phew..
Am I a dick?
You are if:
a) your name is Richard (clearly, it isn't 🙂); or
b) you're a detective.
sometimes matt_
Aren't we all?
I keep hearing people coming up behind me and being competitive I often put the hammer down when I hear that (Don’t we all)
Have you tried opening the taps? That should do it.
i'd assumed he'd put the hammer down to look for his pipe grips.
WTF are you cyclist weirdos on about now?
Why has he taken a hammer out riding anyway
a lot of chairlifts won’t take them
Really? Where? I spent the summer riding e bikes in the Alps and haven't been refused a chairlift yet (although the lifties would give me a look of slight annoyance if they were doing the loading!) Though the best thing about ebikes is easily being able to avoid the lift-lapping masses.
It is tricky to fly with them though - would be useful if all of the batteries were interchangeable to make battery hire easy.
Really? Where? I spent the summer riding e bikes in the Alps and haven’t been refused a chairlift yet (although the lifties would give me a look of slight annoyance if they were doing the loading!) Though the best thing about ebikes is easily being able to avoid the lift-lapping masses
Well, last time I was going up the Super Morzine lifts it had "no e-bikes" on the entrance.
I got overtaken (uphill) on my ebike at the weekend. The guy was quite confused, he’d never overtaken an ebiker before :D.
This wasn't at Hebden was it?
Going out cycling in a minute but will be careful with the taps as they will freeze but my hammer should be safe enough on the icy floor. Always have a hammer and taps on every ride.
This wasn’t at Hebden was it?
Prestwich park. I've been overtaken many places though 🙂
So wot we learnt here is ebikers can be dicks and non ebikers can be dicks but having an ebike doesn’t make you a dick and having a non ebike dont make you a dick.
Not true IMHO, the act of having a motor and instantly becoming superior turns some people into dicks 🙁. Think how some perfectly sane people become when they drive a car. Obviously no Stw posters included in this generalisation, but E-mtbs are more attractive to your average dick than normal bikes. This is all true but E-mtb riders just wont admit it.
Lightweight essential kit for all Fast XC types, fits in any race jersey pocket. Available from the Age Mobility Help Centre, who will also be stocking E-bikes very soon.
🙂
I wonder if people are dumb enough to buy one of each colour for hot and cold taps?
I wonder if people are dumb enough to buy one of each colour for hot and cold taps?
Well, someone was dumb enough to ask that, so it must be possible.
I like to take this out with me when I ride my Ebike.
https://www.washroomhub.co.uk/beck-automatic-adjustable-temperature-tap/
Is opens it's self automatically because I'm too lazy to do it manually.
If only I could find an Ehammer that drops it's self my life would be complete.
jameso
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The Tumble Tapp probably be more appropriate.
