How low can some people stoop?!
Strange one that, because the dropouts don't look too wrong but can't remember one with top tube cables.
One for the retrobike boys.
yeah I think it's fake. the stickers are not anodized logos and all the paraphenalia is just... wrong. it's just that it's a bit of an exclusive brand, something that only XC riders have really heard of and know, (and love?) so I wonder if the seller has had the wool pulled over his eyes..
plus... 4 years old? this is made to look like a klein from the early 1990's in which case it would have an MC setup. and the logos should be sighted nearer the headtube.
It's not a Klein Attitude.
Odd...the dropouts look right (hanger?) but not the cabling or welds.
He does say its re-sprayed, and you can't judge if a frames fake because of what's bolted to it.
Seeing as its had a respray, colour and position/style of decals are irrelevant. Its purely down to frame details. I've never owned a Klein, but the welds don't look like what I've seen on some Kleins.
Klein Attitudes had internal cabling....
I've got one upstairs, and that is not a Klein, nor is it an Attitude.
the c'stays look right too IIRC?
It's as if soemone grafted them onto a BSO. There's even a logo on the dropout that looks right IIRC.
yeah only the pulse had external routing. I have had three attitudes.
Forks are definitely wrong, logos should be on front not side and they didn't have guard mounts (IIRC)
EDIT - didn't see the thing about respray but forks still wrong and should be quill stem surely?
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Klein Attitudes had internal cabling....
Not all of them a few had external routing.
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Unless thats fake too, but i've seen a few like that and with routing on the side of the toptube
plus the forks have disc mounts.... and I DON'T know if disc brakes were invented back in 1993... hhahaha
the few that didn't had red logos
nice pics crikey. 🙂
plus the forks have disc mounts.... and I DON'T know if disc brakes were invented back in 1993... hhahaha
Where does it say they are from 1993???
Did you read the listing?
crikey yours is pretty young - "proper" ones have the rear entry dropouts.
that's the point he says it's 4 years old. they only kind of klein it would be is one from the early 1990's and that's why I said that 🙂
Let's ask Gary.
Crikey's looks to be from 2004/5
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Al now that is sexy.
Yep, mines a 2004, and not a proper one.
I got it because I always loved them and it turned up in a local shop. I've got plans involving resprays and drop bars and other foolish stuff because I've ridden it like I stole it since I bought it and it is a bit ....well used...
I love them so much. when I sell one it feels like a divorce. so my current one is here, beside me in the study and there it shall remain (when it's not out on a leash in the country)
Please don't respray crikey. Please. that would be like telling a lady to dye her hair and get liposuction. (which men should'nt tell a lady).
Trouble is that it is knackered. Because it is a relatively light frame I have used it to do all the silly stuff I used to do back in the early 90s; essentially treated it like a cross bike and hiked it across large stretches of Pennine moorland. This has given the paintwork a seeing too akin to that one would give Pippa Middleton from a socialist working class chip-on-t'-shoulder point of view.
I'd like it to be re-done in a Pearl White with silver graphics, then put drops on it, proper drops just to unsettle cynic-Al. I'm waiting for Hydraulic STIs...
with what shifters?
You won't unsettle me crikey, just amuse 😀
Well.... If money was no object I'd go for Ultegra electronic shifters, but then I would have to go back to canti's.
LOL, Al, I'd have to really check out the geometry and if I could manage it I'd go for it.
or frog legs and get a kinda CX setup with 26"??
or the mini-v's??
I've got Avid Shortys on my cross bike and they have been superb, did the 3 Peaks on them without a thought. Might even go deep section carbon rims too...
That's a Klein Pulse.. 1998ish.
Deffo not an Attitude!
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Agreed. I have the very same bike as in Singlespeed-Shep's pic...its a 1999 Klein Attitude Race and I should bloody hope it's legit as I bought it brand new from a Kingston bike shop.
It seems to be a cut n shut of sorts... The chain stays and dropouts look authentic, but the rest of the welds and tubes don't. I thought Kleins all had smoothed welds?
Could this be a Pulse or a Rascal? Stickered as an Attitude?
http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/klein-pulse-97
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I had a Pulse.. Boo when it got nicked, but yay when the insurance replacement bought me an Attitude!
That's a lotta spacers on the fork steerer. Frame and welds look remarkably similar to my mid-90's Scott, even the top tube scratch/dent where bars hit when they turn round too much, which of course that one no longer will due to the non-original steerer tube ;). Different dropouts though.
If I recall correctly later Attitudes of this age with top routed cables had they funny shaped headtube, which this doesnt. Defo a Klein though, chainstays, rear drop outs etc all Kelinesque
Might even go deep section carbon rims too...
ah you might as well shave yee legs as well 😈
ok the rear triangle has a manufacturing pin hole on the end tubes. Please correct me but You really don't see that kinda thing on the original sweat and toil kleins. Also the componentry is just a shambles. someone would really have had to loose all their brain cells to put that kinda kit on a real klein.
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Ok I have contacted the seller with this:
I wonder if this is actually a real Klein. Please could you let me know the frame stamp number and send the pictures of the dropouts without the wheel insitu so I can see the klein stamp on the frame.
I couldn't see the logo on the dropouts, but it has rear facing dropouts. We're they common on other bikes?
And I wouldn't dream of putting anything less than xt on a Klien.
No, unique to Klein.
Where has Gary gone.? I miss him and his bikes 😥
