[Closed] Ellworth - warning; not ugly content

Only 4 degrees steeper than my hardtail LOLWTF.

I cannot believe that you lot are actually questioning the visionary that Is Tony Ellworth next you'll be telling us that, actually forward geometry designs have some limiting factors 😆

Loved my Ellsworth, depite it being beaten with the ugly stick, after falling from the ugly tree, and landing in the ugly puddle. Until something on it broke. Trying to source a 150 X 135 20mm rear axle to fit the "custom" hub and "industry leading" rear drop out was an utter P.I.T.A.

I cannot believe that you lot are actually questioning the visionary that Is Tony Ellworth

But have they actually identified a section of the bike-buying public that wants the geometry FS bikes had 10 years ago combined with 650b and a too-large gothic font?

too-large gothic font

Cursive is the new Gothic. Seeing as how they're working backwards through the GTA logos it'll be double bold sans serifs next.

You're right!

I didn't even clock that had changed - too much horror elsewhere in the pics.

Slik graphics could probably do you one in wingdings if you asked..

The vast majority of FS bikes look a bit s##t, these are no different.

The issue isn't just the aesthetics, everything really, the rear linkage design, geometry from 10/15 years ago etc etc

I suspect there's a fair number/enough people who are happy with how their 10 year old bike rides and just want to replace it with something that uses 'modern' materials and suspension components and maybe one of those 'new fangled wheel sizes'.

Not everyone wants to plunge down mountains with a head angle that feels like they're pushing a wheelbarrow the axle's so far in front of them 😉

Someone must like it ?

Not everyone wants to plunge down mountains with a head angle that feels like they're pushing a wheelbarrow the axle's so far in front of them

yes I understand that 😀

By the same token I'd prefer not to get catapulted over the bar when applying the brake on anything other than an uphill slope or the flat 😉

Someone must like it ?

How much are they anyway? Still mega money?

By the same token I'd prefer not to get catapulted over the bar when applying the brake on anything other than an uphill slope or the flat

Hmmm. Perhaps we need to re-asses our expectations of what geometry is 'needed' to ride the gnar. 😉
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He's got suspension forks on that bike the coward! 😉

Anyway you know that you have to have a 62 degree headangle or less this year or it's certain death offroad...

They are 110% ugly

They've even managed to make a fatbike look uglier than they normally do:
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Sweet baby jesus and the orphans!

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Is that an optical illusion or have they pumped those fat bike tyres up so hard that the rim tape is bulging ridiculously through the rim cut-outs?

Maybe there's no rim tape 😆

OK so they might not be set up tubeless but still, tape or tube it looks like its coming through 10mm or so

I'm thinking they blew up the inner tubes with no rim tape at all. What do you reckon - 20psi?

too much whatever it is

Just again - 69.8. It's an otb 'moment' looking for a place to happen.

If they held on to the gothic font for a bit longer it would have come back into fashion. (tbh I liked it in a so wrong its right kind of way)

New font borrowed from 1985? Neighbours?

They're pretty awful looking things...I wouldn't even get to looking at the geometry!

Do people actually buy them? I don't recall ever seeing one being ridden?

I will admit I used to lust after these 10 years ago.

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In fact I still want it.

Me too woodster 🙂

I even like the font they used.

Yep - they've only gone downhill from there (and I don't mean on a trail)

Mate had a Truth which broke a chainstay in Moab. Not the first by the lack of surprise when we took it to the bike shop. Still Warrantied with a new one while he was still out there. He then bought a moment which I rode for a while while he rode my 5Spot. We both preferred the 5Spot but that Moment certainly was still a decent bike when compared to similar bikes of the time.

Those latest ones tho. Ugh.

I did have an ISIS for a while... that was, er, interesting.

I had an epiphany...great bike...mate still rides one. The late great Mr Worland rated them..i think they are dated now and th ecompany seemed to stand still and lacked the R & D other companies put in.

i quite like that old Moment posted by woodster, i even looked into buying one.

(ended up with a Hemlock instead)

But wow, the new ones certainly are ... [i]challenging[/i]. I've checked, and yes, they've used every RGBi combination that my screen here is capable of producing.

I've had a couple of Truths, really rated them a few years back - a great race bike. I still have an Epiphany which is about 6 years old now, still ride it sometimes, a great bike in its day. Don't like those new ones though!!!

The one and only bike you want to be stolen if you had insurance 😉