Just seen this on Facebook - only for Levo 4 at the moment, but looks interesting. Not that you could go proper bikepacking on an ebike, but could carry a spare battery I suppose
I saw the video linked on the Orange Avinox thread. The Levo looks interesting and I could imagine using such a thing, once age interferes, for my occasional, short overnighters rather than for longer through routes.
I certainly don't object to the styling or the concept.
Folk are already bikepacking with ebikes though. It just takes a bit of planning.
I met plenty people out touring (wheres the line drawn?) on the Hebrides doing so on loaded E bikes - not only in groups of E bikes but in mixed groups allowing mixed abilities to tour together without concerns.
Its been 5 minutes since a marketing person came up with the last big thing so I guess this was inevitable...
I don't know enough about all the different USA ebike classes, but ebikes (sold as bikes) in the EU & UK have a "max system weight" declared to pass the regs... that's the bike, plus rider, plus anything mounted on the bike... I wonder what the declared max system weight is for the "The S-Works Levo 4 X", if it's coming to this side of the Atlantic? And what about the existing Levos they're selling the racks for people to add to?
I don't know enough about all the different USA ebike classes, but ebikes (sold as bikes) in the EU & UK have a "max system weight" declared to pass the regs... that's the bike, plus rider, plus anything mounted on the bike... I wonder what the declared max system weight is for the "The S-Works Levo 4 X", if it's coming to this side of the Atlantic? And what about the existing Levos they're selling the racks for people to add to?
Hmm, fair point - this is only what the robots think, so maybe not 100% accurate, but there doesn't appear to be much wiggle room, unless you weigh 70kgs. Personally, it wouldn't bother me too much, but then I don't think I'll actually be adding racks to my ebike anyway
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Total weight limit for a Gen 4 Levo according to the user manual is 125kg for Carbon and 135kg for Alloy.
Not that you could go proper bikepacking on an ebike, but could carry a spare battery I suppose
Depends on where the line is between "touring" and "bikepacking".
You could do a night at a campsite / in a hostel for recharge and then a night on the hills. I've seen plenty of e-bike touring options, some supported (as in, luggage transfer, accommodation booked for you), some just as self-guide route suggestions with marked options for recharge.
It's well past time that shops, hotels etc here started offering e-bike charge facilities. Loads of places do on the continent, there are even public charge points. That sort of thing in this country would just get vandalised.
109kg for bike and rider is not a lot - assuming the bike is around 20kg, I'd be struggling to make that weight, particularly in winter!
someone on pinkbike suggested one of those foldout solar panels.
not sure if it was a joke or not. realistically, how long would that take to charge up a full size e-bike?
someone on pinkbike suggested one of those foldout solar panels.
not sure if it was a joke or not. realistically, how long would that take to charge up a full size e-bike?
I'm going with "never".
I’m riding across Europe atm and I’ve passed thousands of people bikepacking on e bikes. In fact I’d say 90% of the people I’ve passed have been on e bikes. Some are properly loaded for camping some obviously going hotel to hotel. I came over the Brenner Pass yesterday and stopped for a kebab at the shack on the top and there was an old guy in there charging his e bike battery as he was eating! It’s amazingly popular around the Alps. Didnt see anyone doing it in Kosovo mind.
On the Great North Trail, when we got to Scotland we saw and heard about people doing it on e-bikes. I think it would have been entirely possible to do so.
I’m seriously considering buying these racks to go on a Turbo Levo Expert as it would work for a few use cases for me, including riding to cycling holidays, and buying it on the cycle to work scheme so that I could use it to commute to work. I also would like to try touring on it to.
I’m actually surprised that no one has come up with a solution like this (using the rack to add to sprung mass) for full suspension bikes already.
Nicolai have been making this kind of thing for years
"Making" - its an ebike with some mud guards and a pannier rack.
Nicolai have been making this kind of thing for years
Anyone know what make of mudguards are on the bike?
In fact I’d say 90% of the people I’ve passed have been on e bikes.
That just tells you that all the people on real bikes are faster than you 🙂
109kg for bike and rider is not a lot - assuming the bike is around 20kg, I'd be struggling to make that weight, particularly in winter!
To be fair, you'd probably also struggle to find enough stuff to fill the front and rear racks with the maximum 30kg of gear!
Anyone know what make of mudguards are on the bike?
Per Nicolai, they are made by VisionVelo
I use my Ebike for bikepacking.
it doesn’t have any fancy names or anything, just an Ebike with a rack and panniers attached.
i saw a guy on YouTube who had an electric cable that allowed him to charge up at a type 2 car charger, if i can find one of those i would buy such a thing, as i could then charge up at any public charge point.
Can't believe that no one has mentioned the price of that Levo - £12,499 - **** me, how much!
Better off buying Aero's racks which will fit every bike you have.
Having done several back packing trips using my very light carbon Stumpjumper, which still weighs a "ton" when loaded up with all my camping gear etc, I can't imagine what my 26kg Mondraker e-bike would feel like with all my gear attached! Certainly wouldn't want to pick it up over a fence or locked gate!! 😱
Yeah, I’ve used my Levo SL for bike camping and hosteling a few times, both solo and as a duo. My OH uses her Orbea Rise. We both use a Tailfin axle mounted ‘racks’ with their side panniers and a bar bag. If I need to carry a bit more I use a top tune bag in front of the seat post and my 3L waist pack.
My partners Orbea is a brilliant bike for bikepacking, as it’s possible to wring a pretty good range on one charge. Even just using the smaller internal battery on the bike, she’s managed to get around 115km and 1600m ascent and still had about 27% battery left! (Got to be diplomatic here, but guess her + bike camping kit weigh around 90kg, and the bike weighs about 18kg.
I guess the good thing with the new Levo is the removable battery, but certainly don’t need to spend £12k!
Can't believe that no one has mentioned the price of that Levo - £12,499 - **** me, how much!
Better off buying Aero's racks which will fit every bike you have.
Or just buy the racks and any other Gen 4 Levo.
Range is always going to be impacted by weight, and bikepacking is more weight.
You look for a 2nd battery, but thats also more weight, so its going to be some more range, but not as much as you think.
The only solution is to limit range yourself. Look to go from A to B before wherever it is you hope to recharge, then on somewhere else closer, or split the journey into another stop.
Mine is 625wh though i can add another 500, but need another part, plus needs rewiring or something to enable charging to do both batteries. Bit of a faff around really.
Im possibly thinking of this - R&M Superdelite.
Need though fork/shock change, probably the wheels/brakes, but even with its £7.5K price tag, thats still a lot less than £12.5k Levo set up.
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