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I thought I'd be able to go for a ride with my son on a demo day - him on an eBike, me on a normal bike. He laughed at me on the climbs.
Part of the reason for me getting one is so that I can continue to keep up with my racing snake 13 year old son. He can almost out climb me on the e-bike now, and I have no chance of keeping up with him on the downs. I'm beginning to think that Joe Barnes used to be our postman ๐ฟ
He laughed at me on the climbs
Be honest, he'd have laughed at you on any bike. ๐
Come to think of it , it's not just Ebikes, riders of 'boutique' bikes seem to have a habit of holding you up on the downs too!!
So getting set up in the car park at a trail centre
And there's your problem โ
And there's your problem
I agree. Starting a sentence with "So" is just not acceptable.
[i]Be honest, he'd have laughed at you on any bike[/i]
and not just on a bike ๐ฅ
Agree with the OP.
The sooner an out of control, slightly rotund ebiker runs over a child (and either seriously maims, or kills it), the better. Perhaps then, we might see them banned from shared use trails.
Davidtaylforth - bit extreme!
Bravo DT ๐ ๐ ๐
This is a self converging thread eventually in 5 years.
Cool young doodz buy e-bikes and shred the trails.
Old blokes that don't know when to call it a day buy e-bikes so they can carry on bemoaning back in the day as an excuse as to why they now ride e bikes.
Shared trails become non issue and folks are braaaaaping their way across the countryside with gay abandon.
OP will look back and realize he was powerless with his futile complain.
Davidtaylforth - bit extreme!
๐ well it was just another daft response to yet another daft ebike rant. I think I've put more effort in to previous replies though.
I can see your frustrations though ๐
^^ is that what
looks like?gay abandon
Ooft, sorry, don't know what came over me then, must've been overcome by all the awesome...
Can we have a consensus please? What pisses people off the most?
A 'boutique', expensive bike being pushed up a gentle climb (say 3 mile climb at degla)
An ebike slowing folk up on relatively easy downs, like the hope line at gisburn
One day I'm going to get fully joey'd up, full face lid (maybe open face with goggles), full body armour on the outside of Rapha Lycra, basically every mtb 'fashion' faux pas, and do one (maybe both?) of the above at a popular trail centre on a busy, sunny, summers day, some one on here must bite for a rant...
๐ real life trollin! Wish I had an ebike and some Rapha
there are 2 slightly rotund gentlemen getting kitted up in their enduro gear
That boils my piss.
How much weight do i have to gain to qualify for an ebike?
How much weight to gain to boil piss?, and what qualifies as a boutique bike?
Just leave Rafa out of this ..hes ours and you can't have him..
Toon Army ,Toon Army .. ๐
How much weight to gain to boil piss?
BMI > 20
well it was just another daft response to yet another daft ebike rant.
Which is really what they deserve now, we used to threaten kittens for wheel size rants on here...
Can I respectfully propose all e-bike rants exceeding 10 posts mean a Barn Owl must be shot using a longbow...
Look out snowy STW are on about leccy dandyhorses again...
"say whooot?"
"too late!"
Surely the forum deserves an inventive swear filter as on the BearBones forum. For example:
"Rapha bidon on my rig" becomes "Expensive hipster brand p1ss bottle on my bicycle"
joebristol
In terms of overtaking downhill it was singletrack
so? Just make your own overtaking line!
Soooo, I have ridden one and can tell you that they are not monstrous trail destroying beasts, and boy do you feel it when the assistance stops. They are fun and enable some to ride who otherwise couldn't, there will be one in my future (age catching up) but I ain't dead just yet!
They are fun and enable some to ride who otherwise couldn't,
Surely that's a bad thing though? Busier trails etc, cluttered with people who can't ride properly.
Did you not go on the trails until you could ride properly ?
So if say, you had a heart attack tomorrow, and the doctor said that riding would be good for you, would all your handling skills vanish into thin air?
My cardiologist said no more competitive cycling and try and keep bpm below 130, still peaked it at 173 doing twrch and Cafell today and being a bit slow only managed 26mph downhill on Twrch, being lazy only burnt 1418 calories also.
Should of stayed on the sofa with a massive Toblerone gazing at my navel
[i]then proceeded to hold us up on the DH [b]we'd worked hard to get to the top of[/b]. [/i]
I think this is what upsets you OP. You feel you have worked harder than them and they've cheated somehow.
how do we know he'd worked harder? the chubsters might have had a much higher HR, due to being fat and unfit, despite the assistance?
It's more I don't like climbing, and just do it to get to the top (and get fitter) so I can enjoy the downhill.
You should get an ebike
Lol - it wouldn't help me get fitter / shed a few pounds though!
I do the occasional uplift day when I'm wanting a full day of downhill anyway (and can actually justify a whole day out) it would take a lot of those days to rack up the cost of an ebike.
Also, I'm guessing a bike approaching 50lbs is a bit of a handful on the way down which I don't much fancy.
Also, I'm guessing a bike approaching 50lbs is a bit of a handful on the way down which I don't much fancy.
Yeah, you might hold up somebody, irritating them so much they go on the internet to whinge about you.
And quite right they would be too
I've only just noticed the URL of this thread - it appears the OP really was quite upset and the mods presumably stepped in quickly ๐
Did we establish whether the OP also gets upset by lycra winkers who overtake him on the fireroad climbs and bimble the downs? Though having used to be one of those, the most amusing was the grumbling as I overtook a couple of chaps on the climb about 100m after the end of the long singletrack DH - chaps who hadn't been in sight when I got to the start of the singletrack...
Generally people fitter and better at climbing are also likely to be better downhill too in fairness.
People who use electric motors instead of getting fit put themselves somewhere on the trail their skills can't cash! (This obviously doesn't include people who have always ridden and have a medical condition).
Generally people fitter and better at climbing are also likely to be better downhill too in fairness.
Like roadies getting into MTB? Can average 400w going up hill but all fingers and thumbs on a blue descent?
MTB masochists that tolerate the descents to be able to smash the climbs, sort of the opposite of what you do? Takes all sorts eh?
Never come across either on the trail. Somewhere like Cwmcarn's Twrch climb would sort out the fit but poor technical people in fairness.....
Generally people fitter and better at climbing are also likely to be better downhill too in fairness.
In fairness, that's utter bobbins. Generally*.
*Not really. It's just utter bobbins. I'm as much use as a sack of spuds going uphill, while a mate I ride with is a snake hipped mountain goat on the way up. I have to wait for him at the bottom of every descent, though. Climbing ability doesn't equal descending ability. Sometimes the two overlap, but there's really no correlation. Totally different skill set and muscle usage.
eBikes will be like those mobility scooters, originally intended as an aid to assist those with mobility problems but ultimately then taken over by the ****less and lazy.
Should of stayed on the sofa with a massive Toblerone gazing at my navel
Ooerrrr!
Captain - I get what you're saying - but it's reasonably rare on my rides to come across someone who absolutely annihilates me on a climb without being reasonably competent downhill. I'd also say it's usually a lot easier to make up more time on someone going up a hill then make up time downhill.
In this case said ebikers weren't fit enough to fully capitalise on their electric assistance to make up enough time uphill to make up for their incompetence downhill.
Why didn't you just wait 3-4 mins at the top once they'd set off though ?
It seems to me that YOU made it into a problem at least as much as they did



