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so upon'st venturing out on a regular solo night ride last night, i was bitten/attacked by a alsation(sp?).....top teeth totally in the back of my calf, now had to stump up £15 for 2 prescriptions, had to have a tetnus jab and to top it off the anti-biotics im dont allow me to even sniff alcohol (so there goes my planned boozy weekend 🙁 )
all in all im pretty pissed off, and now feel i should have done something about it!
so heres the scene :- i was riding uptowards a local woods area, cracking riding (though illegal to pushbikes in the last 2 years due to an accident that killed a walker, council caved in and made it a footpath only).....now i know i shouldnt be up there as such, but in the years ive been doing it ive never once come across walkers up there at 7pm in the dark nights (its really creepy and only a madman or woman in this case) would be out walking dogs with no lights up there....i get to the gate/style, see three dogs coming down (not on leads) so i wait at the gate to allow the walker and dogs to cross me peacefully so im not in there way nor causing the woman to shit herself or the dogs....the dogs start barking as they await for the woman to follow, harmless enough just barking at me but steering clear....then upon getting closer to me, the woman decides to make her point (fair enough i guess) that i shouldnt be up here on a push bike, i tell her that i appreciate her point of view, but it wont stop me coming up, hence why im up here late at night expecting to see no body....we have a bit of light hearted banter, anyways as we sort of cross paths, i veer to the right to let her through (she has 3 dogs roaming around NOT on leads, and 1 other alsation on a tight lead)...the other 3 dogs not on leads go past with barking and sniffing me but absolutly fine and dandy, then as she walks close she gets over powered by the dog and the dog makes an attack for me, teething its way into my calf, drawing blood instantly....i went absolutly ballistic at this point as you can imagine, i said how on earth have you managed to let that happen given you have it on a lead?!?!?! she went all quiet apologising instantly etc, asked to see it then said thats only a light bite (which is wasnt, i had 3 clear visible punctures with blood dripping from all 3, then proceeded to joke and say you must do more damage to yourself when falling of your bike than that) a comment that didnt go down well considering i was angry, in pain and generally pissed off.......i proceeded to rant at her, telling her she shoudlnt have 4 dogs out walking with her, and 3 off the lead she has no control over, and to boot a dog on a leash which she had even less control of, she agreed with this 'but didnt expect to see anyone else', of which i said regardless whether i should be up here or not, your dog still probably would have done this if i was walking past (i was pushing/walking bike past her when it happened....obviously being annoyed and pissed off i was angry and swore at her a few times to say the least, her argument everytime was i shouldnt be up there....i said thats fine, i agree, but it still doesnt give your dog the right to chew my leg...to which she then backtracked everything and said he was scared as he got run over when he was a pup....BY A CARRRR!!! i said im on a bike not a ****ing car! she then apologised and apologised and apologised...as i had no way of getting her details (no phone, pen etc) i had to just ride on....though i doubt even if i did she would have given me her real name and number 🙁
she was adament we are both in the wrong, to some extent i agree, i shouldnt be riding there by law (shit law) and her dog should in no way bite people so ferrociously as it did....the point is why do people who have huge dogs x4 feel its ok to wander around with 3 off the lead and a vicous one they cant control???? i could have easily been walking my dog up there, as i do sometimes, and im pretty sure there would have been carnage with the 3 dogs off the lead and mine 🙁
it makes me sad that people can be so irresponisble with animals as powerful and damaging as those mentioned...
so now im 15 quid down, a trip to the docs in work time, on antibiotics that have made me feel like shit after just 1 day and i cant drink at the weekend on what should have been a brill weekend ive been looking forward to 🙁
so i guess i just put it down to one of those things in life 🙁
call the cops.
It could be some kids face next time.
Oh the irony (but I think you realise it already) of you riding where you shouldn't cos you don't expect to see anyone and her walking her savage dog where she doesn't expect to see anyone!
[i]so i guess i just put it down to one of those things in life[/i]
not many other options available...
Daft owner shouldn't have a dog she can't manage. The fact that 3 were running free and the 4th was on a lead rather points to the fact that there's a control issue, and that the dog should be muzzled.
Should be reported and as a minimum the dog should be muzzled.
Dogs off of lead are fine as long as the owner has control. Not all off lead dogs can be tared with the same brush.
Coming from a responsible dog owner I would report it.
However, I feel naff all good will come from it - as you have said you were, in part, in the wrong.
i thought about that after, but i had nothing to write any details down, nor do i know where she is from etc, so i cant see how i could have got anywhere with it?
i made the point that i coudl have been walking with child etc but she wouldnt get past the point that i shouldnt have been up there on a bike....totally avoiding the point that she has no control over a vicious dog...
the more i thought about it the more i wish i had done something, i mean the fact that out of the 4 dogs, she had this one on a lead when the other 3 were roaming freely?!?!?! kinda tells me something in hindsight 🙁
by the sounds of it you've both learnt a lesson 🙂
oh and good rant by the way, i especially like the massive paragraph
call the cops.
It could be some kids face next time.
yeah i mentioned a muzzle but she claimed he hadnt done anything like this before (which again is strange with it being the only one on the lead)....
i wasnt bothered by the fact she was having a pop at me for being up there, ive had it before when ive gone mega early morning by a grumpy old man, i just argued and said if you feel that strongly about it, report it to the council and tell them to come and investigate it, it really wont stop me riding there......i am doing no body any harm, and i try to go when i think people wont be on it, and its probably once every 2 weeks at most!
nickf - Memberthe dog should be muzzled
Not always the answer.
If you approach one of my dogs in a manner that they feel threatened then they will react.
Simples.
This does not mean that they should be muzzled.
I take it you are not a dog owner.
Alsations (sic) are a breed that are know to protect their owners. Perhaps it felt threatened by you?
Absolutely should be reported. As someone has said you could have been walking with a child or anyone else for that matter and they may have been injured. Dog needs a muzzle at the very least!
philconsequence - Memberby the sounds of it you've both learnt a lesson
oh and good rant by the way, i especially like the massive paragraph
inglish wuz nevor mi stong pount! 😆
so the consensus is i should have reported it, and now i wish i had, its hard though when you have no means of taking any info, and given the fact i highly doubt she owuld have given me correct information, for fearing her scrotum like dog could be put down 😈
Argh ......
Now you are presuming that the dog on the lad is telling you something about the state of he others 🙄
Mark it up to a bad experience, report it but move on.
Alsations (sic) are a breed that are know to protect their owners. Perhaps it felt threatened by you?
and this gives the dog the right to bite him?
As above you should have called the police.
A dog that will do that is a risk to children, elderly etc and the owner is clearly incapable of controlling it.
on my leg
's not right
suppose to beg
dogbite
letmetalktomark - Membernickf - Member
the dog should be muzzled
Not always the answer.
If you approach one of my dogs in a manner that they feel threatened then they will react.
Simples.
This does not mean that they should be muzzled.
I take it you are not a dog owner.
Alsations (sic) are a breed that are know to protect their owners. Perhaps it felt threatened by you?
i dont doubt this, and let me get this straight i would NOT have had the dog put down if it had come to this - my point is with the owner having no control...
she had this dog on a lead, it overpowered her by some margain (there was about 2 metre gap between us as we crossed) thats where my point lies, she shouldnt be allowed to own a dog that size if she cant control it on a lead, let alone anything else...its so irresponsible to just see the good in dogs, they do go wrong, a simple scare and they can flip....obviously a muzzle for this said dog would be ideal to say the least...
again to re-itterate my point, she must have concerns, it was the only one of four to be on a lead! tells you something!
anyways, how unlucky, 3 dogs off the lead (2 alsations, 1 collie type) and i get bit by the bloody one with a lead on 😆 😆 you couldnt write it really could you haha!
neil853 - MemberAlsations (sic) are a breed that are know to protect their owners. Perhaps it felt threatened by you?
and this gives the dog the right to bite him?
No.
letmetalktomark - MemberArgh ......
Now you are presuming that the dog on the lad is telling you something about the state of he others
Mark it up to a bad experience, report it but move on.
errrmm not really no, i think its pretty self explanitory is'nt it?!?! she had 4 dogs, 3 off the lead and 1 on the lead...the one on the lead bit me?!?!?! surely she must have had experiences of his beviour before if she chose to keep him on the lead out of the 4?!?!?!?
logic suggest so im eyes
Shoulda just jumped off and ****** it up.
Not always the answer.If you approach one of my dogs in a manner that they feel threatened then they will react.
Simples.
This does not mean that they should be muzzled.
I take it you are not a dog owner.
Alsations (sic) are a breed that are know to protect their owners. Perhaps it felt threatened by you?
You take it wrong - I have two trailhounds (think of a faster foxhound and that's a good approximation), neither of whom are on the lead other than near roads.
I stand by the comment that a dog which cannot be controlled by its owner and stands the chance of biting someone (whether or not this is to protect the owner) should be muzzled.
As a responsible dog owner, I cannot put a member of the public in danger. The onus is on me, not on some poor sod who may not know how to approach a dog, or understand that it might bite.
I would report it to the Police. Who is to say that the dog hasnt attacked before and hence why she put it on the lead to try and prevent it happening again. If people dont report it the Police can never do anything.
Perhaps your bike lights spooked the dog?
nickf - a bit harsh on me there with the 'not on some poor sod who may not know how to approach a dog, or understand that it might bite'
i have a dog, i know they get scared easily, hence why i waited for them to cross, i didnt go near the dog in the slightest, i was WELL clear of it, the dog went towards me, not me being naieve trying to stroke it or the likes!
Oscillate - I wasn't referring to you, actually. The very fact that you [i]do[/i] have a dog (and thus know that some breeds are exceptionally protective) and [i]still[/i] got bitten means that someone else with no experience may have come off even worse had they, as you suggest, tried to stroke it. Hence my view that a muzzle's pretty much a necessity in this particular dog's case.
It might pay you to go back out at the same time again as you may find she walks her dogs in the same spot.
I've just tried to read your post and now I look like this.
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Why did you not bite her leg and see how she liked it?
I am, and the dog should be muzzled and particularly if it has a nervous disposition. The fact that the OP happened to be riding a bicycle regardless of the status of the path is irrelevant.
Jackass123456789 - MemberIt might pay you to go back out at the same time again as you may find she walks her dogs in the same spot.
stalk her you mean?
Quality - lol
Last time a dog bit me (and tasted blood), it got kicked so hard in the head, it got knocked out. Hopefully it will remember the head ache it experienced next time it thinks about biting someone.
Owner wasn't too happy, but then again, it should have been on a lead if it was that dangerous.
I actually like well behaved/well trained dogs.
The fact you were on a footpath has nothing whatsoever to do with her dog biting you, FFS. (Rise of the pedants).
Report it to the Police. As has been said, what if a couple of kids had ventured up there. One crime doesnt lessen the seriousness of another.
Stupid mutt should be put down. And her dog.
Next time you go up there riding, take 4 of your buddies with you, hold three of them back with dog leads, then get the forth to jump on her and bite her leg!
😉
report it, the technicalities of you being there aren't relevant to that point (it's a public place, you could have been walking) the dog attacked you, owner could not stop it. I guess "on a lead*" does not always mean "under control"
*short lead, not one of those stupid, cause more trouble than they prevent, extendable jobs.
FTFY takisawa 😉One [s]crime[/s] civil wrong doesnt lessen the seriousness of [s]another[/s] a crime
You were bitten by a dog that was out of control. Regardless of it being on a lead, it bit you, therefore it was out of control. It has nothing to do with you being in posession of a bicycle. Report it. You owe it to yourself and the next person it bites - who may not be so lucky.
Take a pen next time, or use the voice memo your phone probably has on it, along with the camera it might have.
Personally I'd report her to the police for being in possession of a dangerous dog, the whole 'my dog doesn't bite/isn't normally like this/other owner based bull poo' doesnt wash with me.
You're right, it could well be a child or someone more infirm than yourself next time, saying that you shouldn't be there is a pointless exercise as under no circumstances should a dog in public, that's kept as a pet ever bite someone.
I doubt very much it'd be hard to find her as she obviously walks that route regularly.
What antibiotics are you on? IIRC there's pretty much only one type that you can't drink on - the rest is all just nonsense.
cheers for the responses guys - pretty much my thinking the majority of you...
YES i shouldnt have been up there riding - but it doesnt make it right that the dog bit me.. ie, its not like for like is it!
at the time i sort of took that stance, i shouldnt have been up there, so its partly my fault...but with hindsight, its not the case, as i said could have easily been walking my dog, and i think that would have been worse given 4 dogs on one mutt and a bloke!
the fact she kept calling me 'mate' after every sentence kept winding me up too 😆
YEAHHH IM YOUR BEST MATE, THANKS FOR LETTING YOUR DOG RIP MY LEG TO SHREDS 🙁
as for anti biotics, they are pretty much the only ones you cant drink on - doxycycline & metronidazole!
pretty much the worse combo for drinking apparently 🙁
Yep - thems the ones! Gutted!
is there any point in reporting it now though? i dont have a name of the person (or the dogs 😆 ), only the place of course? cant really see that thats going to be much use to anyone though
Could be a kid next time, should be put down.
It could be some kids face next time.
Not could be; it [i]will[/i] be a small child's face next time. 😥
And it will be the OP's fault for not reporting it.
Which is pretty much accessory to murder, as the Law stands.
I saw a muzzled Pomerainan the other day. I had to laugh. I asked the owner if it was a dangerous dog, and she said 'actually he's too bitey'. Tiny little thing you could've put it in a pocket.
But it could quite easily kill and eat a small child. You just can't be too careful. It's good to see such a responsible dog owner.
An evil, vicious killer:
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So 7pm, dark on a footpath where a walker was killed previously, a walker with her 3 dogs (probably startled and scared) goes into defence mode and bites and you don't think its your fault?
You shouldn't even have been there FFS.
No sympathy.
There's a guy on another thread who might kick the dogs and the owners head in for you if you ask nicely..........