Forum menu
Went for a short ride at Glentress yesterday. On a uphill fireroad, an unknown rider told me that my helmet wouldn't do me any good on my rucksack.
I don't mind advice, but I hate climbing with my fullface on. My rubbish reply was, that I don't intend falling off.
Can I have suggestions for a better reply, if I get the same advice again?
I've only done it once on a scorching day at NyA. Otherwise I can't be bothered with the stop start faff. Do what you are happy with.
I do it sometimes but TBH the sensation of putting back on a cold sweaty helmet (steady, schoolkids!) isn't worth the benefit while climbing unless it's a looong climb
On a hot day, on a path I know is going to be a long slog I, and folks I ride with, tend to take them off. Nobody has died yet.
Can I have suggestions for a better reply, if I get the same advice again?
**** off TJ?
Something along the lines of "we're pedaling up a fire road, exactly how accident prone are you? personally I'm fairly confident of staying on my bike." Alternatively "I'm sorry I can't quite see your trail police ID, should you not be clearly displaying it?"
I always get rid of my helmet when climbing unless it's super tech or very uppy downy trail centre stuff. My head gets hot and it's my head.
P**$ off?
God can you imagine if there were trail police!?
"both hands on the bars please"
"im going to have to write you a ticket for that wheelie"
"im going to need a sample from the contents of your camelbak sir"
partyboy, nope it wasn't TJ, unless he has changed his accent. The last time I rode with him, he didn't worry that i took my helmet off, but I like your idea. Although Mrs Ivnickkate doesn't.
Yes I often take mine off, especially when pushing back up & its full face. Not much chance of tripping and falling over! Although it isnt great putting a cold/sweaty helmet back on :-S As for what to say, I wouldn't bother as its your choice!
Full-face - yes
XC lid - no
Can I have suggestions for a better reply, if I get the same advice again?
'It's not mine- I took it as a trophy from the bloke I murdered back down there...'
Full-face - yes
XC lid - no
This. Climbing in a full face is horrible not to mention pointless.
Yes when on forest trails etc - head always gets too hot - no if it is technical.
Yup, when at Afan i'll do most of the uphills without a helmet. I sweat like a pig so it's pointless having it on.
Rarely wear mine uphill unless it's really cold or rocky techy stuff,just get too hot.Coincidentally was at GT yesterday and someone remarked as I went past them on a climb sans helmet that not wearing a helmet uphill seemed a good idea!
[i]My rubbish reply was, that I don't intend falling off.[/i]
And yet you're wearing a full face helmet for mincing about on XC trails...
๐
the correct reply is simply
"Prick!"
ivnickkateOn a uphill fireroad, an unknown rider told me that my helmet wouldn't do me any good on my rucksack.
Can I have suggestions for a better reply, if I get the same advice again?
[b]Busybody[/b] - "Your helmet won't do you any good on your rucksack, tut tut!"
[b]You[/b] - "I won't do any good shoved up your *** either, but if you don't mind your own business, that's where it will end up!"
Just reply with a cheery "Thanks mom".........
For a know it all of that sort a response along the lines of:
"The voices tell me I must kick you off that Dandyhorse and peel you with my Leatherman... Perhaps you should pedal faster"
Would be appropriate I reckon...
For my own part I tend to keep my XC lid on for the whole ride but if it's a full face day I'll most likely be pushing up so will take the thing off, I suppose a stray golf ball could lead to someone sustaining a serious head injury while pushing up Aston hill, but I doubt the paramedics would be bemoaning the lack of a noggin protector in that case...
Do your own risk assessments, and let others do theirs...
XC lid - no
I have done with mine on really hot days, as my head is cooler without it when moving slow. Have also taken it off on long road climbs on holiday in France (the Spinaci bars on the tandem make a very handy helmet holder). Why do you think it wouldn't be an issue with a roadie/XC lid?
I'd reply 'It's my head, and we're on a fireroad uphill.'
Being rude could put thier back up, where stating the facts might make them think?
You could say thanks before saying the above, and hope for good kama by staying polite and friendly?
:~)
I often take my helmet off, but have you seen Specialized's full face helmet with vents in it, that's like a hybrid design?
I find squirting water into the vent on the top of my head is nice on a hot day, as you tilt your head you can feel the water moving about and cooling it.
Climbing in a full facer is horrible, the ventialltion is only designed to work when you're moving. More likely to fall of with one on ue to heat exhaustion.
Now an XC lid, well I think the sweat-pads do their job tremendously well nowadays, you've got a bit of shade, and in many cases they're more comfortable than going "commando" IMHO.
Climbing in [s]a full facer[/s] [b]any sort of helmet[/b] is horrible, the ventialltion is only designed to work when you're moving. More likely to fall of with one on ue to heat exhaustion.
IMHO YHO is retarded!Now an XC lid, well I think the sweat-pads do their job tremendously well nowadays, you've got a bit of shade,[u] and in many cases they're more comfortable than going "commando" IMHO.[s]
Why do you think it wouldn't be an issue with a roadie/XC lid?
The OP's question was "Does anyone else take their helmet off uphill?"
My answer was:
Full-face - yes
XC lid - no
If you want to take your XC lid off as well, be my guest. Mine doesn't bother me. Maybe you have a sweatier head than me.
Ho hum.... Somedays I go out without a helmet at all!!!!!!111!1!11!!!!
I've been doing it for 25 years now, and I'm still ok. But yes, I'll often stick mine on my pack or up my shirt at the back when climbing.
My answer was:
Fairy nuff - apologies for the accusatory tone.
Blimey you are a miserable touchy bunch. I'd just laugh it off presuming he was just joking and being friendly, even that wasn't his intention.
Or on the other hand he was taking the piss out of an ATGNI type...
If we're honest, the bigger issue here is the use of a full face helmet at GT.
the bigger issue here is the use of a full face helmet at GT.
Biscuit anyone?
Fairy nuff - apologies for the accusatory tone.
Dammit man, that's not the Singletrack way. We could have sparked a whole rant there! 
No, but only because my XC lid is so comfy I forget I'm wearing it. If it was a full-face and I was riding slowly back up a forest road, I'd take it off too.
As others have said.
Yes if its my full face as I am probably pushing anyway
No if its my trail lid as its comfy any way so I don't see the point
sounds like GW needs a new XC lid.
"The voices tell me I must kick you off that Dandyhorse and peel you with my Leatherman... Perhaps you should pedal faster"
I like that. ๐ It's got a sick edge which I approve of wholeheartedly.
I particularly like the bit where you'd peel them with your Leatherman. ๐
Handy things, Leathermen.
I have seen me riding up to the buzzards at Gt with my helmet on my pack..
If we're honest, the bigger issue here is the use of a full face helmet at GT.
I dont see a problem with wearing a full facer at Gt..wear whatever makes you feel safe, I dont personally but dont have a problem with folk that do.....helmet police now ๐
Gotta love the comments you get at Glentress.
A few years ago me and my then GF were riding up to Buzzards Nest both of us on "trail" style HT's, baggies, Camelbaks etc. Passed a couple of guys in full lycra on racey XC HTs. Politely said "good morning".
One of the guys looked at us and, obviously in an attempt to justify us riding faster than him, said quickly "we've already done a lap". I was like, WTF?! Couldn't care less. And they hadn't done a lap either cos we saw them later, lost. ๐
I like Elfin's and 7hz's comments - either works well. ๐
sounds like you might be a baldy ๐oliverd1981 - Member
sounds like GW needs a new XC lid.
HTF can wearing a hot sweaty lid ever be more comfortable than not wearing none?
[i]If we're honest, the bigger issue here is the use of a full face helmet at GT.[/i]
Can't be too careful, you might trip over your mound of body armour in the car park.
proteus, munrobiker, i'll take the bait. The helmet is a met parachute, so i'm apparently increasing my risk. No other body armour involved.
I find a good defense against 'should you be..' or 'you shouldn't do ... ' etc type commments from 'helpful' types -usually grumps on foot but not always-
is a really loud, forced / exaggerated Pirate impression. Maybe with added crazy-eyes. It silences people every time. So far. If it avoids a debate and is as stupid as the opening question, 'everyone's a winner, matey'
'Away and take yer face for a shite'
Would have been an ideal response, in hindsight.