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tomhoward
Full MemberThe future is bright, but it doesn’t involve Danny.
No brake jack though
I wonder if Cove will be on the phone soon 😉
Do they want their geometry back?
I wonder if Cove will be on the phone soon 😉
They don't make bikes anymore 🙁
Came here for updates on Danny Hart, found it had now descended into an Orange bashing thread!
Came here for updates on Danny Hart, found it had now descended into an Orange bashing thread!
Normally this place is an echo chamber, but on this thread it's the sound of a skeleton ****ing in a biscuit tin chamber.
Normally this place is an echo chamber, but on this thread it’s the sound of a skeleton **** in a biscuit tin chamber.
Thanks for the heads up, I think I'll just pop that one away in the filing cabinet.
That is very cute. And it'd probably fit Danny quite nicely.
teethgrinder
Full MemberNormally this place is an echo chamber, but on this thread it’s the sound of a skeleton **** in a biscuit tin chamber.
So, the same sound my Orange makes then?
From the front page - saracen partnering with Antur Stiniog. could the falling out with the Harts be over Descend BP rather than race results?
From the front page – saracen partnering with Antur Stiniog. could the falling out with the Harts be over Descend BP rather than race results?
More likely a dig after the fact from Saracen
Brave of them to expose their bikes to the punishment that place dishes out to bikes.
It's got nothing to do with Danny though, apart from maybe they wanted a different outlet if they previously had a similar arrangement at Hamsterley.
Descend were selling off all the Sarcin DH bikes over the last few weeks, possibly even before the news broke (although that could have just signified moving on previous models rather than being dumped)
But...
The Descend FB page is no more, and Paul Hart's FB page is no longer there either.
Sponsors should be happy.
The Descend FB page is no more, and Paul Hart’s FB page is no longer there either.
Never fear, his oxygen thief wife is still churning out covid conspiracy nonsense and anti-vaxx propaganda.
In these dire times it's only right that we ignore the scientists and follow the advice of a former glamour model.
Descend were selling off all the Sarcin DH bikes over the last few weeks,
Sounds like standard end of year selling off of a hire fleet?
https://www.descendbikepark.com/
Downhill bike hire available at £60 per day.
Requires £100 cash security deposit on the day. Please call to make a booking.
Full face helmets are required. Hire helmets are also available at £10 per day.
Please Note: Cash only as no electronic card payment available on site.
Currently you can still hire a saracen bike there (I guess once lockdown is over) for cash only. Avoiding giving saracen their cut of rental money? Or was it always a cash only site?
Avoiding giving saracen their cut of rental money?
Doubtful. The bikes are likely already paid for, the shop will then sell them for trade at the end of the year. Rental costs (minus maintenance) are profit. The Saracen/Madison support is probably just a deal on what they’ve had to pay when they got the bikes
Wow, some real personal attacks here, surely this is not the place for that?
Criticism may be fair but some of what's been said above is just plain offensive.
Doubtful. The bikes are likely already paid for, the shop will then sell them for trade at the end of the year.
Fair enough, I was unaware of how the bike park rentals work.
Which in a sea full of boat anchors is hardly going to be difficult is it , there hasn’t been a light orange since the early 90s
Didn't the 22x series bikes have the title of lightest production DH frames (~7lb w/o shock) right up until the end of the Peaty era when everyone else went hydroformed and/or carbon?
my 222 was sub 40lbs which was pretty light back then. Wasn't even a conscious effort to get it that light.
On the subject of floating brake arms, the bike was faster without in my experience
On the subject of floating brake arms, the bike was faster without in my experience.
True. Never mind the fact that on a bike that already sounds like a handful of bolts being shaken in a biscuit tin that arm made a hell of a racket. I ended up faffing about with making teflon washers just so it didn't rattle so much.
My large 224 evo in 2010 weighed 40lbs on the nose which was pretty light when you look at all the other multi pivoted monstrosities people were riding back then. That was straight out of the shop in standard spec.
The only problem was the fork was crap, the shock was crap, it had skinny little Mavic rims which collected dents for fun and when you were on the brakes the rear wheel turned into a jack hammer.
Still did a season in Whistler with it so looking back I had more fun on that bike than any other before or since.
I've noticed that Danny's bike park has closed and has had its Facebook page taken down.
This is after operating contrary to the Covid rules and subsequently being advised to close by the Forestry Commission and British Cycling.
Paul Hart then went on a bit of a Facebook rampage, both on his own profile and writing on behalf of the Bike Park's profile, complaining about BC and the FC, complaining that Covid was a hoax, threatening to attack anyone who rode the trails, banning people from the bike park in future who disagreed with him etc etc, with some rather fruity language from the Bike Park's account.
This has all now been removed.
I wonder if this will have any bearing on Danny's future contract / team, as he has (or has put his name to) anti Covid views, and running the bike park whilst flouting restrictions. Indeed today on Instagram his story shows him visiting a business which is clearly operating contrary to the English Covid restrictions. It also shows just how much of a loose cannon his father appears to be.
Currently you can still hire a saracen bike there (I guess once lockdown is over) for cash only. Avoiding giving saracen their cut of rental money? Or was it always a cash only site?
To be fair, they have always been cash only. There is no or little phone signal and I'm not sure if they even have running water or mains electricity it is that remote. It has always been like this long before Danny got onboard
Paul Hart then went on a bit of a Facebook rampage, both on his own profile and writing on behalf of the Bike Park’s profile, complaining about BC and the FC, complaining that Covid was a hoax, threatening to attack anyone who rode the trails, banning people from the bike park in future who disagreed with him etc etc, with some rather fruity language from the Bike Park’s account.
What a roaster. Blowing up brands and burning bridges a specialty.
I wonder if this will have any bearing on Danny’s future contract / team, as he has (or has put his name to) anti Covid views, and running the bike park whilst flouting restrictions.
It absolutely does. Brands hire riders to promote the brand and sell bikes - not many companies won’t to be associated with people like that
Just had a quick look on Paul Hart's Facebook page. Yep, it's still all anti-immigration ranting and whinging about lefty snowflakes. He's in no way unusual. I'm from the northeast and he both looks like and sounds like every man I grew up around and then had to go to work with at every job I had up there.
Paul Hart then went on a bit of a Facebook rampage, both on his own profile and writing on behalf of the Bike Park’s profile, complaining about BC and the FC, complaining that Covid was a hoax, threatening to attack anyone who rode the trails, banning people from the bike park in future who disagreed with him etc etc, with some rather fruity language from the Bike Park’s account.
Please tell me someone has screenshots?
He sounds like the sort of bloke I would love to have a pint with.
As to where Danny is going, best keep an eye on an mtb website such as vital or pinkbike.
Danny seems to do fine when it's all about being on a bike and using his undoubted talent.
When he either has to think, or involve his auld dad, well...
I think they’ve done a bit of cleaning up. All I can find from Paul and Descend is
1) some fairly normal pro-brexit and anti immigrant stuff, which while I may disagree with, I’m happy to remain friends with people who share far worse
2) bike park stuff where he is trying to get some answers about why they have to shut when other trail centres and stuff stays open - where he actually comes across rather well mannered and highly educated compared to some of the comments...
Looks like someone took offence at a post I made.
Let's just say that doing a quick bit of social meedya stalking on Hart Snr and Mrs Hart Jnr is an eye opener.
A bit like a reality TV version of Viz, but without the humour.
I think they’ve done a bit of cleaning up. All I can find from Paul and Descend is
1) some fairly normal pro-brexit and anti immigrant stuff, which while I may disagree with, I’m happy to remain friends with people who share far worse
2) bike park stuff where he is trying to get some answers about why they have to shut when other trail centres and stuff stays open – where he actually comes across rather well mannered and highly educated compared to some of the comments…
Please tell me someone has screenshots?
Have a look on the Hamsterley Riders Facebook page and some remnants are still lurking about, plus seeing others' comments gives a picture:
"The easiest way to become a member is by riding the tracks and waiting for Paul Hart to catch you and beat you."
As has been said, a lot has been cleaned up in the past week, perhaps something has been said.
Just had a quick look on Paul Hart’s Facebook page. Yep, it’s still all anti-immigration ranting and whinging about lefty snowflakes. He’s in no way unusual. I’m from the northeast and he both looks like and sounds like every man I grew up around and then had to go to work with at every job I had up there.
I agree - a lot of people in the northeast seem to have complete disregard for Covid and if you believe in it or follow rules then you are a raging lefty allied to Corbyn. OF course this does not represent the whole population, and may just be the fact that those views appear to be shared more. Let'snot turn this into a Covid chat though, there are enough of those going about...
Happy to continue to dish the dirt on Paul Hart though!!
I went down a Facebook and cyber stalking rabbit hole with the Hart's and ended up scrolling through Danny's wedding photos on his missus's page. Just to see if there was any MTB faces I could see. And cos I'm a nosy bastard. Only recognised Scotty mears mind
I still feel a bit grubby but AFAIC it's Zuckerbergs and hanny darts wife's fault.
fairly normal pro-brexit
Errrrr......?
🤔
As much as I am personally anti brexit and think the whole idea of putting it to a referendum was idiotic; I can empathise with someone wanting what they voted for.
I'm really only posting on this thread for a reaction, which is naughty of me.
I'm going to stop.
I am genuinely interested in where Danny goes next year, though.
I love watching him ride, he makes great shapes on the bike and goes for stuff that many other world class riders look at, but don't do.
descend FB page had disappeared but is back now. Listing temporarily closed.
We went near the end of October and there was zero covid consideration anywhere, no masks on buses or in cabins etc. It was a bit odd.
We went near the end of October and there was zero covid consideration anywhere, no masks on buses or in cabins etc. It was a bit odd.
Welcome to the north east.
I am genuinely interested in where Danny goes next year, though.
I love watching him ride, he makes great shapes on the bike and goes for stuff that many other world class riders look at, but don’t do.
+1
@benpinnick I mean Vicky comes from there has put up with you for 25 years so they must be a bit odd?
I am genuinely interested in where Danny goes next year, though.
He's going to Cube. Did anyone mention that yet?
Did anyone mention that yet?
Cube certainly haven’t.....
Now if we can get a Rich Energy sponsorship deal for him...
We went near the end of October and there was zero covid consideration anywhere, no masks on buses or in cabins etc. It was a bit odd.
Yes, I understand that they were reported a few times by different people. A rider who had booked on in advance turned up to find few Covid protocols and approached Paul Hart to raise concerns. He was promptly told to "F*** Off its our business we can do what we like".
Oh and they don't have planning permission for their hut extension, latest start hut and new jump trail...
@benpinnick I mean Vicky comes from there has put up with you for 25 years so they must be a bit odd?
True Dat.