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 womp
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HI

I'm planning on setting up my new Chinese carbon cyclocross frame 1x10

my quetsion is what crank should i use ?

I'll be using a med cage XT clutch mech
BB is BB30
I plan on using a Narrow/wide chainring (110BCD appears to offer the best range)

i can get a SRAM force CX1 crankset (110BCD) from CRC which fits the bill at £148

are their any other 1x10 options ?


 
Posted : 05/01/2015 9:47 am
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1 X 11 Shimano 105, 110 bcd, race face narrow wide front ring 40 tooth and 11-28 rear cassette with non clutch mech. Works perfect

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Posted : 05/01/2015 11:16 am
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What you going to use to change gear with as nothing shimano do on the road side of things works with a 10 speed MTB mech


 
Posted : 05/01/2015 11:32 am
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kingkongsfinger
1 X 11 Shimano 105, 110 bcd, race face narrow wide front ring 40 tooth and 11-28 rear cassette with non clutch mech. Works perfect

My thought process was a clutch mech would help retain the chain (plus i have a spare XT one), im also thinking that an XT mech will allow me to use a wider ratio MTB cassette and give the option for an expander.
as for the Crankset I did consider as you have done buying a double and using a NW chainring but had read that the chainline is not great.

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What you going to use to change gear with as nothing shimano do on the road side of things works with a 10 speed MTB mech

ill be using bar end shifters as i have some TRP Hylex hydro disc brakes


 
Posted : 05/01/2015 1:55 pm
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Will bar end shifters work with a clutch mech? Not sure.

Any road crankset with a n/w ring will work. I'm using Ultegra cranks & a 40t Doval n/w ring, 10spd Centaur levers & a 105 rear mech (1x9).


 
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Also 1x11 as above and no clutch mech

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5 races so far and no dropped chain


 
Posted : 05/01/2015 4:07 pm
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Both 1 X 11 bikes shown have white bars, thats why the chain's have never come off. 😳


 
Posted : 05/01/2015 4:35 pm
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BTW, the chain line on mine is perfect.


 
Posted : 05/01/2015 4:38 pm
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Will bar end shifters work with a clutch mech? Not sure.

looks like these will...
http://www.microshift.com.tw/BS-M10.html

mmmmmm getting tempted by the shimano1x11 now, what gearing are you guys on and how do you find it?


 
Posted : 05/01/2015 5:24 pm
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Hmmm, That Microshift jobbie says [i]"cable pull ratio 1.5:1"[/i]

I'm pretty sure Dynasys works on 1.16:1 (Close but not quite 1:1)

Will that bar end shifter actually operate a 10 speed Shimano MTB mech?


 
Posted : 05/01/2015 5:56 pm
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hat gearing are you guys on and how do you find it?

I'm running a 38 front ring with an 11-28 out the back. I used to run 36/46 but didn't use the 46 much in races.


 
Posted : 05/01/2015 8:31 pm
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Hmmm, That Microshift jobbie says "cable pull ratio 1.5:1"

I'm pretty sure Dynasys works on 1.16:1 (Close but not quite 1:1)

Will that bar end shifter actually operate a 10 speed Shimano MTB mech?

Having a look through the Internet proves inconclusive some quote 1.16.1 others 1.5:1

Surly microshift have done their homework ? I'll email them in the morning, cheers for the heads up


 
Posted : 05/01/2015 9:48 pm
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hat gearing are you guys on and how do you find it?
I'm running a 38 front ring with an 11-28 out the back. I used to run 36/46 but didn't use the 46 much in races.

Cheers, I'll be using my cx for commuting and messing about mainly (and two local races). Hence why I'm looking for a good spead, I've just done some quick costings and the cost difference is negligible between an Ultegra 1x11 and an XT/CX1 1x10 40T/11-40, the Ultegra obvoulsly gives you one extra gear but the XT allows for a wider ratio


 
Posted : 05/01/2015 9:55 pm
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kingkongsfinger: what frame is that sir ?


 
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Its from www.flyxii.com A cyclo cross frame. Excellent, I also have raced their 29er carbon MTB frame all year which is mega.

I also have a Trek Superfly SL for reference, so I know what a good bike rides like.


 
Posted : 06/01/2015 8:23 am
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Hmmm, That Microshift jobbie says "cable pull ratio 1.5:1"
I'm pretty sure Dynasys works on 1.16:1 (Close but not quite 1:1)
Will that bar end shifter actually operate a 10 speed Shimano clutch MTB mech?

I emailed micro shift and this is the response i got...

[b]Thanks for the concerns you reminding.

Actually 1 : 1.5 cable pull ratio ( Shimano MTB 10 speed RD ) is a kind of saying in the industry
to identify it's different from MTB 9 speed RD & road RD. In the meantime to tell it's different
from Sram ( Sram says its RD's cable pull ratio is 1 : 1, but it's not exactly 1 : 1 ). We'll correct
the saying to avoid some confusion may caused.

Our bar end shifter BS-M10 is compatible with Shimano MTB 10 speed RD.

Regards
microSHIFT[/b]


 
Posted : 06/01/2015 8:49 am
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Its from http://www.flyxii.com A cyclo cross frame. Excellent, I also have raced their 29er carbon MTB frame all year which is mega.

Cheers ill take a look, i was looking at a through axle version from Miracle Bikes (id need new hubs though so prob not worth it) or a standard QR with mudguard fixings from ICAN

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Posted : 06/01/2015 9:08 am
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That response from Microshift is interesting, I suppose it should work then.

"Industry Standard terminology" New one to me TBH...

So it's 1.5:1 meaning ~1.16:1. in much the same way that 2:1 was actually 1.7:1... at least it's all consistent bollocks.

The really silly thing is that Campag apparently use 1.5:1 for real.

Do let us know how how the whole set up works out I quite like the idea of a 1x10 CX bike with a clutch mech/NW ring drive and this bar end shifter would seem the best way to do it at present.


 
Posted : 06/01/2015 9:21 am
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So it's 1.5:1 meaning ~1.16:1. in much the same way that 2:1 was actually 1.7:1... at least it's all consistent bollocks.

The really silly thing is that Campag apparently use 1.5:1 for real.

Hang on, does that mean that Campag 10spd should match with Shimano mtb 10spd?


 
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Just marking the page for future reference


 
Posted : 06/01/2015 10:31 pm
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Hang on, does that mean that Campag 10spd should match with Shimano mtb 10spd?

Nope, Campag actually uses 1.5:1 where "Dynasis" (10 speed Shimano MTB) is ~1.16:1 but apparently "the industry" call it [i]1.5:1[/i] to help confuse customers...


 
Posted : 07/01/2015 12:48 pm