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Any ideas, annoying as it disappeared a few weeks ago but equally came out of no where too

I can create the same noise by pushing foot down on crank arms stationary especially the left crank

So far I've checked pedals, new frame bearings as were roughly due, ruled out rear wheel/freehub/cassette, does it regardless of out of saddle so rules that out, had cranks off and greased everything, greased 3 year old ck bb, no play in rear shock etc etc, new chain on but not new chainring but was doing it before the new chain

Can't really think of anything else to try so random that it disappears for two weeks then suddenly comes back again, any ideas?


 
Posted : 21/05/2016 11:00 am
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cleats in your shoes?


 
Posted : 21/05/2016 11:05 am
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Could be tonnes of things and creaks can seem to come from somewhere where it isn't.

But, while no apparent play in the shock, I'd look at the bushings. Often had creaking that's come from them. Washing the bike may make it go away for a ride and then come back, or it varies depending on conditions on the day I've found.

Pop the shock off and clean up the eyelet bushings. If it has top hat mounts and they fall out easily or the bushing comes out easy, then replace bushings (or consider getting a heavy duty mount kit and poly bushings. I get very little problem since doing that). Don't be tempted to grease them by the way. That will suck in dirt and it'll creak for sure (and wear them out).

Another one - is the BB threaded or press fit? If press fit, then good chance there's your problem.


 
Posted : 21/05/2016 11:08 am
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I found my squeak. Similarly only happens on the down stroke in low gears.

XT M8000 rear mech clutch. Turn clutch off... noise gone. Done under 200 miles on it, it's new. Annoying.

Don't know what to do about it so suffering it for now. On my old mech, a Zee, the clutch made noises it exploded internally and LBS / Madison didn't want to know about warranty at all. I decided to go 11 speed rather than get a new Zee.


 
Posted : 21/05/2016 11:11 am
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Grease round the mech hanger?
Cable outers rubbing in the stays?


 
Posted : 21/05/2016 11:25 am
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Deadkenny - cheers will look at bushings but shock from new is only 2 months old, but worth a check thanks, it's a threaded ck bb and I've never had it creak before on previous frames, though it's had a lot of use its always greased with the tool once a month, spins smoothly etc

Good shout on the xt rear clutch mech I've been thinking mine seems a bit shit lately too, I did kinda check that as I've had it make weird noises before, but sadly when the clutch is off it still does it, last year it was that that caused a weird noise, as it instantly disappeared when the clutch was off, I will strip it and clean it all though

Jekyll - have greased up the hanger and a
I've held the cables away from frame and it's nothing obvious there either


 
Posted : 21/05/2016 11:38 am
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Chainring bolts, pedal axle?


 
Posted : 21/05/2016 11:50 am
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In my experience it's always the pedals. I know you say you have checked them, but have you tried swapping them with some from a non-creaking bike?


 
Posted : 21/05/2016 11:55 am
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covered a lot of angles there - but I'd second the check chainring bolts - had my first ever loose one a couple of weeks ago - a bit of a surprise

not helpful but it took me several rides to work out that an odd metallic chinking sound was the zip pull on my new rain jacket tapping on the top tube!


 
Posted : 21/05/2016 12:02 pm
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My creak turned out to be a carbon seat post in a carbon frame. Carbon paste fixed it, took me ages to find though.


 
Posted : 21/05/2016 12:34 pm
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Pedals - makes no difference, I can replicate the noise cranking down on the crank arms them self, with trainers on stationary so rules out pedals/cleats

Chainrings bolts - it's a direct mount one and isn't loose and only uses three bolts

Starting to think maybe loose pivot or just chainrings worn and making clicky noises


 
Posted : 21/05/2016 1:08 pm
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Headset bearings


 
Posted : 21/05/2016 1:11 pm
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New about 4 months ago and had them out recently and greased seem fine


 
Posted : 21/05/2016 1:20 pm
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Good point on the clutch mech actually. A few people I know have found their creak to be that, and one of mine was doing it a bit recently then it went away again. In my case, SRAM Type 2 so there's no on/off switch to test, it's just always on.


 
Posted : 21/05/2016 1:24 pm
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My creek turned out to be the braided hose rubbing on the frame.


 
Posted : 21/05/2016 1:28 pm
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Stem bolts?


 
Posted : 21/05/2016 1:30 pm
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Jockey wheels.


 
Posted : 21/05/2016 1:39 pm
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cable ends (especially if the bike's not rigid) - mine used to do it when they dried out, so the sound would randomly appear and disappear


 
Posted : 21/05/2016 1:52 pm
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well tonights the test and im 99.9% sure i cured it

it was indeed the chainring bolts, well one basically fell out when i unscrewed the t25 just slightly! given theres only 3 small bolts on the direct mount ones i guess that could cause a fair bit of movement/clicks on the climbs!

tested it straiht after stationary and it disappeared completely!

so 10/10 and gold star to thestabiliser! well done squire and thank you again re-reading the thread made me check everything! stupidly the only thing id not properly checked, although i did have the cranks off 2 weeks ago


 
Posted : 24/05/2016 12:56 pm
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Dirty headset


 
Posted : 24/05/2016 1:01 pm
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Remember this day, this glorious sunkissed day. Take it to your bosom for eternity. For today, my friends, I got something right.


 
Posted : 24/05/2016 1:05 pm
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Remember this day, this glorious sunkissed day. Take it to your bosom for eternity. For today, my friends, I got something right.

๐Ÿ˜† 8)

well its not confirmed yet, but the click was there directly prior to finding said loose bolt, and upon'st putting back together again it completely disappeared! albeit all stationary, but it was the exact same click! hills are a' comin tonight! ๐Ÿ‘ฟ


 
Posted : 24/05/2016 1:15 pm
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Let me guess where......just for a change ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 24/05/2016 1:35 pm
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Fork CSU. My Fox 32s creak a good un but it sounds for all the world like it's the BB or headset.

Other odd one I've had is a creaky hub axle (it was slightly out of tolerance).


 
Posted : 24/05/2016 1:49 pm
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Let me guess where......just for a change

๐Ÿ˜† ITS PRIMMMOOOO I TELL THEEEEE' BUT YEAH HAHA


 
Posted : 24/05/2016 3:29 pm
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I can indeed confirm it was the chainring bolts, like a new bike again now, totally silent and stealth! thanks again for input ๐Ÿ™‚

for any one else experiencing clicks (for futures google searchers), if its under load climbing, theres a good chance its your chainring bolts!


 
Posted : 25/05/2016 8:52 am
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I just chased the exact same thing last weekend. Thought it was my pedal too, but no. Chainring/chainring bolts.


 
Posted : 25/05/2016 9:07 am
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so frustrating, but once one of the three bolts literally fell out when I unscrewed a tiny bit I kinda knew Id hit the jackpot ๐Ÿ™‚

may have to Loctite them next time, though getting a t25 to the three bolts is tricky due to the positioning of the them on xx1 cranks

still, glad its all sorted now 8)


 
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Headset bearings

+1


 
Posted : 25/05/2016 10:41 am