My error, Rightmove drops the location pin in the wrong place
https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-70876588.html
Bathroom & kitchen need updating...
Interior decoration by "House of Misers".
I think all the cycling groups should just get in their cars and park at the cafe and in front of Mr/Mrs Angry's home. They might then welcome the return of cyclists. Either that or everyone books a viewing to see their cottage.
Either that or everyone books a viewing to see their cottage.
But they turn up on a bike. And then offer an insultingly lie price and tell the seller they are a dick. Whilst wearing a camera for our benefit.
I think all the cycling groups should just get in their cars and park at the cafe and in front of Mr/Mrs Angry’s home
Make sure they all drive there at 5mph blocking up the roads and stopping the complainant getting home quickly
Property has potential to extend subject to planning, should not be a problem then.
Meeting required, poss motorbikes! First rule of the Velolife meeting club....
what an amazing story and so so 50s England, I think. Will be following the thread and look forward to an opportunity to positively support the cause.
Get that Jake100 and his London wheelie boys to come along.
The complainant would get his knickers in a right twist with all the youths and dark people.....
It's near me, the wastegate pipe on my car is currently cracked.
It sounds horrible, I might have to do a few laps, I won't stop at the café as I'm sure they wouldn't want to be associated with the awful din.
It's my local café and is such a great spot, run by a fantastic team. It's saved me from extreme cold and extreme heat on quite a few occasions. Fingers crossed they get something sorted. Their "Chocolate awesome cake" is indeed awesome!
Are there any decent mtb routes near there or is it's all skinny rubber and peakless lids territory?
Move the Meet Point for rides to inside the cafe , to circumvent the NIMBYS
Move the meet point for rides to outside the councillors front door. Public gathering in a public place, give them something to get really upset about
Hate petty mindlessness like this. People trying to make a living , provide a public service , enhance the community , and , heaven forbid , make a profit , get the rug pulled by a load of cretins who sit firmly in the " There is nothing in it for me .-ergo I will do utmost to derail it" camp
Particualy the ex landlord with a chip on his shoulder , He couldn't make it work as boozer , for whatever reason , so the green eyed monster comes out when he see's it being potentialy successful as a café .
Turn up on mass, face off the police, they’ve got bigger things to worry about. Check with cafe owner first of course.
Right by Crazies Hill and CockPole Green.....
Fitting.
https://twitter.com/MrSimonDudley/status/1160470480962445312
Simon Dudley is the Leader of RBWM Council and the fact that he's posting this makes me even more certain that there was some behind-the-scenes bypassing of protocol in the initial complaint and how it was handled.
The complainant is the guy who owned the venue as a pub for a few years, he's a councillor and it sounds like the complaint just bypassed all the usual check-and-test routine (how loud is it, is it "unreasonable", how often does it occur...) and went straight into the "deal with it" pile. I'm assuming that letter bypassed the council legal department too because the solicitor I spoke to at work, who is very experienced in town and county council work, was astonished by how unprofessional it was - said it was a load of bollocks, completely unenforceable and an abuse of power.
Councillor using his position for personal reasons.
Id like to be a fly on the wall in @mrsimondudley office on Monday morning. I bet that's going to be an entertaining day!
Cycled to @thevelolife to chat to fantastic owner Lee
Cycled there?
To a pre-arranged meeting?
Shut the place down, NOW !!
If MrSimonDudley could make that meeting pay per view, he could probably fund his authority for the next 12 months!
Unbelievable. Stuff like this sometimes makes me embarrassed to be a Brit. Then again, read rotten boroughs in Private Eye every few weeks and this is the thin end of the wedge.
What makes me laugh though is their attempt to backtrack from the first letter sent to the cycling clubs. It absolutely threatens that they (or their members) risk being added to the legal action being undertaken and makes veiled threats about criminal offences. Its bullying and Almost certainly an abuse of power. People should be fired. Unfortunately not in my neck of the woods, but if the owner decides to crowd fund to cover any legal costs incurred, I'll chip in
I used to for a local authorities, I've seen some great Ex gratia payments. No we weren't in the wrong and we are not admitting anything but how much money will it cost to make this all go away?
@funkrodent I fully expect that this will be in the next edition of Private Eye. It deserves some wider exposure.
The general consensus is that this won’t survive the court hearing in Nov, but the owner is worried the council will shut him down first.
I think the problem is that if they can basically hound the place out of business before November by placing unreasonable constraints on it operating and driving customers away, then they won't need to win the court hearing...
We're in peak season for a cycling café now, so the best thing people can do is comply with the letter of the conditions (i.e. no mass ride started/finished at the café) and make a point of popping in for a cake and a coffee while being as quiet, polite and non-disruptive as possible...
Basically keep them in business without giving the NIMBYs any ammunition.
The Streisand Effect is happening 🙂
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-49317340?intlink_from_url=&
The council's ridiculous behaviour doesn't make me ashamed to be British, this sort of corrupt incompetence is worldwide.
Very proud of the cyclists who have increased business there since the story broke though.
I think the problem is that if they can basically hound the place out of business before November by placing unreasonable constraints on it operating and driving customers away, then they won’t need to win the court hearing…
Aye, reading stuff elsewhere that’s exactly what the proprietor is worried about. The consensus seems to be that the council won’t have a leg to stand on if it actually gets to court (I read somewhere else that CUK’s lawyers are involved, possibly as a result of threats to cycling clubs).
An excellent bit of nimby pissing in their own shoes in the end it appears.
Council thought they would be onto a good thing, kicking cyclist is popular with Joe public (see channel 5 & the daily fail) fortunately cyclists can kick back.
Great result, will actually work in the cafe owner's favour in the end I think as he's got loads of free publicity and is no doubt busier than ever.
Weirdly no mention of the crooked councillor who initiated the complaint? Must be his 2nd strike now, surely?
Doesn't mention anything to do with the original court case. Only that cycling clubs/cyclists won't be targeted. I.e. they could still try and close the cafe, but won't stop club runs going there.
Edit: mentions the freeholder was involver, is that the owner of the house/pub/councillor?
Good stuff. Any of us who are BC or Cycling UK members can be happy to be supporting the good work done by the legal depts or contacts they have.
Great result, will actually work in the cafe owner’s favour in the end I think as he’s got loads of free publicity and is no doubt busier than ever.
Yep - looked up where they were, realised I rode out very close to them (other side of the Thames / Pishill area) fairly often and will call in next time.
What a bizarre little country England is.
Hang on - there's a few bell-ends in one village and suddenly the whole country is tarred and everyone in it?
Not cool.
Weirdly no mention of the crooked councillor who initiated the complaint? Must be his 2nd strike now, surely?
He doesn't appear on the "who's-who" for the council: https://rbwm.moderngov.co.uk/mgMemberIndex.aspx?bcr=1
Hang on – there’s a few bell-ends in one village and suddenly the whole country is tarred and everyone in it?
Not cool.
Yea but it is isn't it, bizarre as ****.
Weirdly no mention of the crooked councillor who initiated the complaint? Must be his 2nd strike now, surely?
His?
Are people getting mixed up? As far as I can see the councillor involved is this woman;
https://rbwm.moderngov.co.uk/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=143
I believe she is the partner of the ex-publican/neighbour and lives with him at the same address.
Doesn’t mention anything to do with the original court case. Only that cycling clubs/cyclists won’t be targeted. I.e. they could still try and close the cafe, but won’t stop club runs going there.
Yes, good point. This joint announcement only addresses the issue of notices being sent to cycling clubs. It says very little about the original enforcement for breach of planning or the inspector's decision that upheld the aspect that relates to "cyclists meets" at the cafe, or the injunction against the Velolife that followed. This saga is likely to continue.
Mr Anwyl-Hughes is a Parish Councillor and lives in the adjacent property.
https://hurleyparish.org.uk/contacts.html
Yeah, it was only a partial success, the retraction was against clubs threatened with "being named as defendants"in any legal case.
The cafe is still very much in the crosshairs, seemingly just for existing.
Dear cafe,
People are visiting you, please stop facilitating this.
/facepalm
Yea but it is isn’t it, bizarre as ****.
Pretty sure bizarre people are all over the place, not just in England.
Actually, the injunction is not in force, but is still being sought by the council.
Hang on. Local council are quite happy to have a pub on the site. A pub where, on a Saturday night people get hammered, cause a nuisance, fight, shout and scream and commit acts of pety vandalism on the way home.
But a cafe, which is the complete opposite of this is a problem wkich needs eradicating.
Seriously
There must be a back story to this. Redevelopment of site for luxery flats perhaps,
Councillor owns cab company who get held up by the Sunday club run
Ex landlord wants back in to run his cafe to recover his losses from running a rubbish pub
Local councils and job titles, jeez same everywhere mind 9
